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Obama busted in another lie

Revmitchell

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President Barack Obama, seeking to make a case for health-insurance regulation, told a poignant story to a joint session of Congress last week. An Illinois man getting chemotherapy was dropped from his insurance plan when his insurer discovered an unreported gallstone the patient hadn't known about.

"They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it," the president said in the nationally televised address.

In fact, the man, Otto S. Raddatz, didn't die because the insurance company rescinded his coverage once he became ill, an act known as recission. The efforts of his sister and the office of Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan got Raddatz's policy reinstated within three weeks of his April 2005 rescission and secured a life-extending stem-cell transplant for him. Raddatz died this year, nearly four years after the insurance showdown....


....The patient's sister, Peggy M. Raddatz, testified before the House Energy and Commerce oversight subcommittee June 16 that her brother ultimately received treatment that "extended his life approximately three years." Nowhere in the hearing did she say her brother died because of the delay.

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Revmitchell

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So not only did Obama have to take a defensive posture in his speech but he had to use inflammatory rhetoric and fabricate a story in an attempt to prop up a bad and unpopular position.
 

targus

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President Barack Obama, seeking to make a case for health-insurance regulation, told a poignant story to a joint session of Congress last week. An Illinois man getting chemotherapy was dropped from his insurance plan when his insurer discovered an unreported gallstone the patient hadn't known about.

This rang as untrue for me when I heard him say it.

Glad to see that my baloney meter is still working.
 

JohnDeereFan

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President Barack Obama, seeking to make a case for health-insurance regulation, told a poignant story to a joint session of Congress last week. An Illinois man getting chemotherapy was dropped from his insurance plan when his insurer discovered an unreported gallstone the patient hadn't known about.

"They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it," the president said in the nationally televised address.

In fact, the man, Otto S. Raddatz, didn't die because the insurance company rescinded his coverage once he became ill, an act known as recission. The efforts of his sister and the office of Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan got Raddatz's policy reinstated within three weeks of his April 2005 rescission and secured a life-extending stem-cell transplant for him. Raddatz died this year, nearly four years after the insurance showdown....


....The patient's sister, Peggy M. Raddatz, testified before the House Energy and Commerce oversight subcommittee June 16 that her brother ultimately received treatment that "extended his life approximately three years." Nowhere in the hearing did she say her brother died because of the delay.

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What? Former ACORN activist, Barrack Hussein Obama, lied? Why, I'm shocked!
 

Magnetic Poles

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If the OP is factually correct, it doesn't mean he lied. Someone could have given him bad info. Isn't that the excuse Bush supporters here gave about the "yellowcake" story in the State of the Union? We have Wilson clones here...quick to shout LIE without proof.
 

carpro

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If the OP is factually correct, it doesn't mean he lied. Someone could have given him bad info. Isn't that the excuse Bush supporters here gave about the "yellowcake" story in the State of the Union? We have Wilson clones here...quick to shout LIE without proof.


:laugh:

Pitiful. :laugh:
 
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Magnetic Poles

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Blatant sycophantic and ridiculous apologetics deserve no response.

Just laughter.
So ya got nothin'. So you also admit Bush lied about the yellowcake.

Again, the ad hominem is the last refuge of one who has no argument. Thanks for raising your hand to be counted. :laugh:
 

OldRegular

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If the OP is factually correct, it doesn't mean he lied. Someone could have given him bad info. Isn't that the excuse Bush supporters here gave about the "yellowcake" story in the State of the Union? We have Wilson clones here...quick to shout LIE without proof.

Are you talking about the Valerie Plame pimp named Wilson who lied about the Iraqi attempt to buy uranium ore in Africa? I am shocked! yes shocked! that you would claim he has any clones on this Baptist Board.
 

Alcott

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If the OP is factually correct, it doesn't mean he lied. Someone could have given him bad info.

Does he have a responsibility to get his facts straight? Or can he hear a story that aids his position to a point, say "Cut," and use it in a speech to Congress with the 'out' that he was given false, incomplete, or incometent info? That is like a Perry Mason tactic in the novels, where Mason and his client know the police are looking for him/her, so Mason tells client to go hide out and not inform him where, so he will not be violating his responsibility as an officer of the court when he says he doesn't know the client's whereabouts.
 

Magnetic Poles

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I don't need anything.

You offered nothing but unprovable suppositions.

Prove Obama didn't know he was lying. Until you do, you deserve nothing more than laughter.:laugh:
You have the burden of proof. You assert he was lying. Prove it. The burden lies on the one making the positive assertion.
 

ReformedBaptist

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You have the burden of proof. You assert he was lying. Prove it. The burden lies on the one making the positive assertion.

girls, calm down.

Even if Obama was misinformed, or lacked knowledge, don't you think a President of the United States should be more informed than that when dealing with such major issues like healthcare?
 

carpro

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You have the burden of proof. You assert he was lying. Prove it. The burden lies on the one making the positive assertion.


Been done.

So you have nothing but your sycophantic bleatings. We already knew that.

So just keep up your whining. Your hero , the zero, is on the way to becoming the champion presidential liar of all time. Even Clinton can't match him. You'll get plenty more opportunities to apologize for him.
 
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