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  1. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    It has always been my belief that the radical left hated Reagan because he brought about the fall and breakup of the Soviet Union. Now it appears that the leader of the radical leftists, Obama, is determined to give all that Reagan accomplished away. He promised Putin to be more flexible after the election. Is Crimea just the start of that flexibility?
     
    #1 OldRegular, Mar 19, 2014
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    Hmmmm...

    Food for thought.
     
    #2 carpro, Mar 20, 2014
  3. poncho

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    Socialism and corruption was already causing the fall of the Soviet Union when Reagan decided to get them into an arms race they couldn't afford.

    The USSR would have fallen eventually even if Reagan did nothing. You know this to be true OR.

    I understand we all need our heros but why keep perpetuating a myth? Because it fits the current media fear mongering narrative right?
     
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  4. OldRegular

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    Your assumption is invalid. The facts are that Reagan got tough with the "Evil Empire", came up with SDI and the wall came down! It is that simple poncho!

    To quote that famous TV detective, Sgt. Friday: Just the facts poncho, just the facts!
     
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  5. Baptist in Richmond

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    Actually, your assumption is equally invalid. Exactly how did former President Reagan "get tough with the 'Evil Empire?'" To what event can you point that is evidence that he "got tough" with the USSR? Was this on the battlefield?

    An honest question, by the way.
     
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  6. OldRegular

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    The truth is that the leftist democrats would have propped up the Communist Regime just liked Roosevelt did, first in recognizing the most murderous government in history, and then by saving their butt in WWII.
     
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  7. poncho

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    The USSR was corrupt and rotting from it's core out, it was in debt over it's head, it was over extended and barely holding on when Reagan was elected.

    All Reagan did was hurry the inevitable collapse.

    Look around you OR the USA is following in the same foot steps. Washington and Wall Street are corrupt and the country is rotting from the core out, we're over our heads in debt and we've over extended ourselves by waging several simultaneous wars, interventions, regime changes and nation building experiments in the name of "making the world safe for democracy".

    And now the neocons and humanitarians would have us get involved in another cold war and arms race with Russia that we cannot afford!

    The outcome of that can only go one way and it wouldn't be in our favor this time.
     
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    All Reagan did was to INCREASE the national debt and INCREASE the size of government. Contrary to his claims and the Republican fantasy, that's ALL he did.
     
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    I admire him for keeping the "crazies" under control as long as he did. Today's neocons were known as the "crazies" by limited government conservatives in those days.

    Of course conservatism became a whole nuther animal under the Cheney - Bush puppet regime. At that time the republican party became the endless war party and has worked very hard to stay that way ever since, condemning anyone and everyone that might even suggest there are other ways of dealing with other nations besides punishing them with sanctions and/or blowing them to smithereens for not obeying Washington's diktats fast enough.
     
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  10. OldRegular

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    Obama is the biggest buster of all, increasing the national debt by about 70%, increasing the number on food stamps by 20+ million, increasing the poverty rate substantially and making America look like a "wuss" among the nation of the world! A real winner that guy! But he can shoot hoops and shoot off his mouth!
     
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    Reagan/GHW Bush DOUBLED the national debt and the GW Bush REDOUBLED it. In reality the government deficit has been going down under Obama. Here's what I consider to be a reliable source, Forbes:

    2/27/2013 @ 5:21PM 43,230 views

    The Best Kept Secret In American Politics-Federal Budget Deficits Are Actually Shrinking!

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...deral-budget-deficits-are-actually-shrinking/
     
    #11 FollowTheWay, Mar 22, 2014
  12. OldRegular

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    That is smoke and mirrors. The National debt has increased by 7 trillion dollars under Obama. That compares to a 10 trillion dollar debt run up by all previous presidents. Obama intends to make this country a banana republic and is well on his way to success.
     
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    Common sense says if the debt ceiling has to be raised there is no way that debt is being reduced.
     
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    #14 Revmitchell, Mar 22, 2014
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    That was then. This is now. Reality is what he says it is. :rolleyes:
     
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    SDI was Reagan getting tough with the USSR. That was a future battlefield, the ultimate high ground, that the Soviets could never compete on.
     
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    The leftist democrats implied, well really simply said, that Reagan was stupid for even suggesting the SDI and ridiculed it as "Star Wars". Well Star Wars is a reality and if the paragon of leftist dogma had not betrayed the US and the Eastern Europeans it is likely there would have been a Missile Defense System in Eastern Europe and Obama would not need to be "flexible" with Putin.
     
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  18. Baptist in Richmond

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    From your article:
    "While these deficit numbers are, without question, a legitimate improvement, they are deficits none the less— which means the nation’s debt continues to grow. What’s more, the CBO projects that the good news will—if we remain on our current trajectory—turn negative in fiscal year 2015 and begin climbing once again unless we do something to cut spending, increase revenues or find some combination of the two."

    That is less than a year from now.

    Regards,
    BiR
     
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    It seems our friend did not read his own article.
     
    #19 Revmitchell, Mar 23, 2014
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    Obama Is Giving It all Away

    He thinks he's the rich young ruler, huh?
     
    #20 Alcott, Mar 25, 2014
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