Obama pushes for longer school days, years

[rbell]

What a stupid, stupid man.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/27/obama-proposes-longer-school-day-shorter-summer-vacation/

Actually, more sinister than stupid.

What is this about? Control. The government wants more time with our children. Gee...I wonder why?

Also...Obama's bed-mates, the teacher unions, love this idea....their pay is tied to the number of school days. Can you say "big raise?"

From the article:

The president, who has a sixth-grader and a third-grader, wants schools to add time to classes, to stay open late and to let kids in on weekends so they have a safe place to go.

Wow...I remember when it was the parents' job to raise the kids. Now it's the state's.

Obama and Duncan say kids in the United States need more school because kids in other nations have more school.

Yeah...we let the rest of the world tell us how to do everything else now...why not let them tell us how to educate as well?

"Those hours from 3 o'clock to 7 o'clock are times of high anxiety for parents," Duncan said. "They want their children safe. Families are working one and two and three jobs now to make ends meet and to keep food on the table."

So...hand in your freedom, and the state will give you security. Bad trade.



You know, you watch these shows about addicts, or morbidly obese folks that are bedridden from their weight, and you just know that there's an enabler somewhere. There has to be.

Well...welcome to enablement 101.

I'll say this: We start junk like this, and I won't be able to pull my kids out of that school fast enough.

 

[abcgrad94]

"The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world."

 

[preachinjesus]

What a stupid, stupid man.

wow, that is a very sad statement to see you make here.

And I say that understanding your position but come on, you can at least be respectful.:flower:

I am actually in favor of a longer school year. I am in favor of ending teacher tenure. We need better teachers and we need to push our students. I know I'll incur the caustic labels and harsh criticism for all of this but it needs to be said.

When was the last time you visited an inner-city school? How about a low performing school in a rural area? We need our schools to be great places of learning.

The whole school calendar makes no sense whatsoever. We need better schools to turn out better students to continue to make us a better nation.

 

[webdog]

We'll see if all of those students that were supporting "O" last fall will do so come fall of '12

 

[KenH]

The separation of education and state will eliminate this problem.

Schools should be private entities and parents should send their children to the school of their choice, not forced to send them to one based on school district boundary lines.

 

[billwald]

Kid goes back to school after the summer and the teacher wastes a year re-teaching what he forgot during the last 3 months.

 

[tinytim]

According to comparison, American kids spend more time in the classroom than kids in other countries...

Hold on, I will find the proof then post it...

This is another Lie from the Gates of Hell... Washington DC.

 

[tinytim]

Kids in the U.S. spend more hours in school (1,146 instructional hours per year) than do kids in the Asian countries that persistently outscore the U.S. on math and science tests -- Singapore (903), Taiwan (1,050), Japan (1,005) and Hong Kong (1,013). That is despite the fact that Taiwan, Japan and Hong Kong have longer school years (190 to 201 days) than does the U.S. (180 days).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200...ia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g12:r1:c0.344448:b28010788:z0


The key to making kids smarter is not more time in the classroom.. but better use of the classroom...

Like, say, we get rid of the homosexual agenda driven videos that have been approved to show kids in CA..
Or say, we teach reading, math, science, and history.. instead of songs that praise the false messiah, Obama.

Or here's a novel idea.. let's start teaching.. instead of training kids to take the Westtest!!!

 

[Twizzler]

The separation of education and state will eliminate this problem.

Schools should be private entities and parents should send their children to the school of their choice, not forced to send them to one based on school district boundary lines.

I am -sooooo- close to being a Libertarian, Ken! It's not even funny.

 

[abcgrad94]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200...ia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g12:r1:c0.344448:b28010788:z0


The key to making kids smarter is not more time in the classroom.. but better use of the classroom...

True, but I would add that parental involvement would be better than any use of the classroom. Teachers have their hands full with badly-behaved brats who take up the teachers time, leaving little time for actual learning. It is very unfair to the "good" kids who actually want to learn, because the teacher is constantly trying to make the bad kids behave.

It doesn't help when the parents are too busy keeping up with the Jones to actually spend time with their kids and raise them, instead of dumping them off at daycare until 6 p.m. every night. It also doesn't help when the parents expect the teachers to raise their kids for them.

 

[Salty]

The separation of education and state will eliminate this problem.

Schools should be private entities and parents should send their children to the school of their choice, not forced to send them to one based on school district boundary lines.

Hmmm,

Ok capitalism for schools - and with no govt oversight. So a school will have low tuition (and low standards) so those attending will get a inadequate education.

Actually, what I would like to see is a school term of 7 weeks. There would be 7 terms per calender year. A student would be required to attend at least 6 terms per a 12 month period. The "summer vaction" could be taken any term the family decides. Teachers would also teach 6 terms per 12 month period.

One advandage is that if you fail a term, you only repeat that 7 week term over, not the entire year.

Thoughts

 

[Robert Snow]

People often complain how American students don't do as well as students from many other countries, yet when a suggestion is made to lengthen the school year the right-wingers come out in mass against it? Rush Limbaugh would be proud!

 

[Salty]

But Robert,

What do you think?

 

[webdog]

People often complain how American students don't do as well as students from many other countries, yet when a suggestion is made to lengthen the school year the right-wingers come out in mass against it? Rush Limbaugh would be proud!

The suggestion is stupid. As Tim pointed out, we already spend enough time in the classrooms. Now let's actually learn something while we are in there and ditch this humanistic progressive learning garbage.

 

[just-want-peace]

People often complain how American students don't do as well as students from many other countries, yet when a suggestion is made to lengthen the school year the right-wingers come out in mass against it? Rush Limbaugh would be proud!

Absent any other changes, just how will this improve the education system???

Oops, forgot - the "0" is the "author" of this insane idea, so it's "GOT TO BE GOOD"!

Apply a few other changes, specifically eliminating any, ANY, ANY Washington input into a local endeavor (educating our youngsters, just in case you missed the point), and see the results prior to just mandating more time for the "system" to teach queerology, or cooling down the planet, or how great our (?) pOTUS is, etc., etc., etc.

Other than being an advocate of irresponsible use of gov't funds, AND expansion of nanny govt, your point is well taken!

You are absolutely correct - until more accountability from the "system" is demanded, this right-winger is definitely against any more time wasted in the NEA's domain!!

 

[Revmitchell]

The problem with education in America is they are mismanaging it. Stick to what is needed and leave everything else alone. Sex education and things alike are unnecessary in our school system and a waste of our teachers time. They need to spend less time teaching our kids to sing praises about the President and more time educating them.

Schools have enough time what they need is to manage what they have better.

 

[Robert Snow]

If you right-wingers don't like public education, take your children out of the public school. Even a republican can figure this one out!

 

[rbell]

People often complain how American students don't do as well as students from many other countries, yet when a suggestion is made to lengthen the school year the right-wingers come out in mass against it? Rush Limbaugh would be proud!

The last three weeks of last school year, the kids watched videos and played around.

Make the year longer? They don't use what they have now!

Some of the best-performing kids in our area are home-schooled kids...that go to school less than 2/3 of the time the others do....and they out-perform them lights out.

BTW...your post, Robert, was a complete red herring. Try dealing with the issues, and forget about a talk show host I haven't listened to in over a year.

 

[rbell]

If you right-wingers don't like public education, take your children out of the public school. Even a republican can figure this one out!

Why do you think our education system is slipping?

It's because we are doing so.

Pssst...I'm not a Republican.

 

[Jerome]

The Obamas figured it out, didn't they?
They send their own youngsters off to the elite private Sidwell Friends School, while public school students work the fields out back.