More evidence that the police state has arrived: Ohio National Guard now imagines we're the enemy...
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Ohio National Guard Training Envisions Terrorism From Constitution Supporters
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poncho
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Marine Exposes Homeland Security Military Build Up: "Is everybody blind?"
A city council meeting in Concord, New Hampshire erupted in applause after retired Marine Col. Pete Martino issued this dire warning about the U.S. government using local departments to build a standardized "domestic army" right before our eyes. Don't miss this passionate and informed testimony.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekb_4AfmoY
A city council meeting in Concord, New Hampshire erupted in applause after retired Marine Col. Pete Martino issued this dire warning about the U.S. government using local departments to build a standardized "domestic army" right before our eyes. Don't miss this passionate and informed testimony.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekb_4AfmoY
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It's definitely coming. That's why I said in another thread that the growing militarization of local police forces is being done in order to nationalize them.
But the good news is that I saw the opening ceremony of the Olympics and it looks like Communism is going to be a lot of fun.
poncho
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That's what the "fusion centers" are for. Federalizing the state and local police under the guise of "counter terrorism". And we're the "terrorists" they're all training to uh, neutralize.
Yeah the Chinese made it look like a great time for all when they hosted the Olympics too.
thisnumbersdisconnected
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This isn't an overall government conspiracy as the tin-foil-hat brigade wants to paint it. This is a very real (unlike his trilateral-commission-Illuminati-CFS hairball conspiracies) mindset from the Marxists currently in power that there will be a right-wing shooting-war revolution.
Who are these "dark sinister plotters" Blow fears? Glen Beck, Michelle Bachmann, Chuck Norris.
Who are these "dark sinister plotters" Blow fears? Glen Beck, Michelle Bachmann, Chuck Norris.
poncho
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So sayeth the great insulter.
I believe in the end the overwhelming amount of evidence and truth will win out over your constant insults and spurious distractions TND.
"oh I was trollin along on Baptist Board. Insulting whoever there was that refused to go along with the horde." Or would that be the herd? :smilewinkgrin:
The eternal sunshine of the mind-controlled classroom
“Well,” Jimmy’s teacher said, “we’re trying to emphasize cooperation. But Jimmy has another agenda. He apparently wants to stay separate from the other children.”
“Yes,” the principal said. “It’s matter of psychology. You see, separateness breeds conflict. On a larger scale, this is why nations have wars.”
“Agreed,” said the school superintendent. “We want each child to see the reflection of himself in the other children. And we want him to see the reflection of everyone else in himself.”
“You lost me there,” Jimmy’s father said. He was trying to remain calm.
A week ago, Jimmy, six years old, was sitting in class drawing. The teacher had taped a sketch of a face on the blackboard. She was taking the students through a step-by-step process aimed at getting them to reproduce the face in their notebooks.
She walked up and down the rows, and when she came to Jimmy, she saw he was drawing a very different face. It wasn’t bland. It was the face of a woman laughing. The face was floating among trees in a forest.
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/the-eternal-sunshine-of-the-mind-controlled-classroom/
KCPD Tactical Response Teams http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_embedded&v=WfjZ88GrS3c
Nice! Scroll down and read the comments.
Think people don't understand what this "propaganda" piece is all about TND?
“Anytime we’re going to kick in a house like this, we’ve got kids in the neighborhood … and it kind of resembles a military operation,” explains Sgt. Chip Huth, who isn’t quite honest enough to admit that each of those raids is a military operation, an example of what the Pentagon calls “operations other than war.”
According to Sgt. Huth, “We have to establish objective peace before we can move on to any community-building peace.”
Like the expression “clear and hold,” Huth’s statement was formulated in the language of military occupation: Pacify a targeted neighborhood, then try to win the “hearts and minds” of residents.
This is the “new normal” for young Americans in 2014 – but a mere generation ago it was unimaginable except in dystopian fiction.
Back in the mid-1980s, a miniseries called “Amerika” depicted the United States following a takeover by the Soviet Union. Order was maintained in Soviet-occupied America by a cadre of black-clad stormtroopers whose faces were always concealed from the public.
That entertaining but lurid program wildly over-estimated the Soviet threat to our national independence. However, it uncannily anticipated our descent into quasi-totalitarian rule. The Soviet-style enforcers we have to fear are found in our local police departments and sheriff’s offices.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/aint-that-amerika.html
You know TND for a guy that's always railing against "marxists" and their evil agenda you sure do seem to love the soviet style militarized police state being put in place. It's sort of confusing. Aw shucks, I guess I'll never understand the authoritarian mindset.
I believe in the end the overwhelming amount of evidence and truth will win out over your constant insults and spurious distractions TND.
"oh I was trollin along on Baptist Board. Insulting whoever there was that refused to go along with the horde." Or would that be the herd? :smilewinkgrin:
The eternal sunshine of the mind-controlled classroom
“Well,” Jimmy’s teacher said, “we’re trying to emphasize cooperation. But Jimmy has another agenda. He apparently wants to stay separate from the other children.”
“Yes,” the principal said. “It’s matter of psychology. You see, separateness breeds conflict. On a larger scale, this is why nations have wars.”
“Agreed,” said the school superintendent. “We want each child to see the reflection of himself in the other children. And we want him to see the reflection of everyone else in himself.”
“You lost me there,” Jimmy’s father said. He was trying to remain calm.
A week ago, Jimmy, six years old, was sitting in class drawing. The teacher had taped a sketch of a face on the blackboard. She was taking the students through a step-by-step process aimed at getting them to reproduce the face in their notebooks.
She walked up and down the rows, and when she came to Jimmy, she saw he was drawing a very different face. It wasn’t bland. It was the face of a woman laughing. The face was floating among trees in a forest.
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/the-eternal-sunshine-of-the-mind-controlled-classroom/
KCPD Tactical Response Teams http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_embedded&v=WfjZ88GrS3c
Nice! Scroll down and read the comments.
Think people don't understand what this "propaganda" piece is all about TND?
“Anytime we’re going to kick in a house like this, we’ve got kids in the neighborhood … and it kind of resembles a military operation,” explains Sgt. Chip Huth, who isn’t quite honest enough to admit that each of those raids is a military operation, an example of what the Pentagon calls “operations other than war.”
According to Sgt. Huth, “We have to establish objective peace before we can move on to any community-building peace.”
Like the expression “clear and hold,” Huth’s statement was formulated in the language of military occupation: Pacify a targeted neighborhood, then try to win the “hearts and minds” of residents.
This is the “new normal” for young Americans in 2014 – but a mere generation ago it was unimaginable except in dystopian fiction.
Back in the mid-1980s, a miniseries called “Amerika” depicted the United States following a takeover by the Soviet Union. Order was maintained in Soviet-occupied America by a cadre of black-clad stormtroopers whose faces were always concealed from the public.
That entertaining but lurid program wildly over-estimated the Soviet threat to our national independence. However, it uncannily anticipated our descent into quasi-totalitarian rule. The Soviet-style enforcers we have to fear are found in our local police departments and sheriff’s offices.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/aint-that-amerika.html
You know TND for a guy that's always railing against "marxists" and their evil agenda you sure do seem to love the soviet style militarized police state being put in place. It's sort of confusing. Aw shucks, I guess I'll never understand the authoritarian mindset.
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Wow our own military ready to attack the citizens. Who would have thought.
thisnumbersdisconnected
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That's not "our military." That's the Ohio National Guard, one commander, one training manual. It's tin-foil-hat nonsense.
SolaSaint
Well-Known Member
Wait until 70% of American's are on some type of social welfare and the Chinese call their loan to us. The riots will start as soon as the checks stop coming in. So it's not the conservative NRA supporter that the Govt should be afraid of, it is the Takers. And they have no morals to keep them from all sorts of mayhem. I'm praying for the Rapture......
Yep. It's been coming for a while now.
This is why it's so important to support groups like Oathkeepers and people like Sheriff Mack.
Wow, again with your claims of Marxism, which is an accusation you have also thrown at members of this board.
Yet you uphold and embrace the concept of profit over the moral decency and health of citizens, which is the nasty, viral concept that is the root that allows Marxism to take hold in a society, and you continue to uphold enforcements of rules and regulations, of extreme capitalism, to the degree that leads this nation right down the road to what you claim to hate. Yet you scream Marxism as if it was a poison, even while you guzzle the ideas and water the seeds of the concepts that make it grow, that help put it into action.
poncho
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Yeah, I noticed that too! It is rather confusing isn't it? I may have figured it out though.
I'm thinking both parties are so far left on the political spectrum now that the Marxists and fascists are starting to blend together.
If TG = total govt. A = anarchy. GG = good govt. D vs R = current govt and we were to string it all out in a line it would look something like this.
TG__D vs R____________________GG_________A
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saturneptune
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This is a very good thread, but wanted to bring up another point. In addition to the fusion of federal, state, and local police, the federal government is also, ever so slowly, through many avenues, trying to take over state and local governments. This is already being accomplished through education and health care. However, with the recent advent of states and cities going broke, the federal government will be there to "help." The takeover is being advanced daily, until one day we are going to wake up, and there will be no need for all the clauses in the Constitution that describe the difference between state and federal powers. Here is a link of one aspect.
http://z3news.com/w/federal-government-takeover-common-core-curriculum/
In other words, the government of Kentucky, whatever county, whatever city, and the US government will be one entity.
http://z3news.com/w/federal-government-takeover-common-core-curriculum/
In other words, the government of Kentucky, whatever county, whatever city, and the US government will be one entity.
thisnumbersdisconnected
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Nope. I've never called anyone on this board a Marxist. I've accused them of supporting Marxist politicians, aka the guy occupying the White House and most of the Senate Democrats, but I've never called members of this board Marxists. People who support Marxists don't know the ones they support are Marxist. That's the way the Marxists want it. If it were known they were Marxists, no one would support them. So they get gullible people to believe they support a democracy, then slowly strangle everything in a government that is democratic in nature.
Yes, I embrace the concept of profit. I am an unabashed capitalist who favors limited government, free trade, and benefits such a system delivers to every single citizen living under it. I will not apologize for that, nor will I allow this to stand:
Completely erroneous and without merit. It is not the capitalistic aspects of a society that allows Marxism to take root. It is the unfair, illegal, and immoral practices of greed, avarice, and selfishness that give root to Marxism by making way for equally unfair, illegal, and immoral government regulations that destroy the capitalistic endeavors of business and industry.
The atmosphere of American industry and commerce in the late 19th and early 20th century was such a closed society of decadency, leading to intervention by the government that fomented gross overreaction: Piled-higher-and-deeper government regulations that were allegedly designed to prevent monopolies, unfair trade, and promote fair wages and labor practices which were good things, in theory. Unfortunately, the regulations were designed surreptitiously by lawmakers under a Marxist influence to actually stifle industry and commerce, laying a framework of interference by which American business and industry could be slowly regulated to death, unfairly increasing taxes on reasonable profit, driving a wedge between labor and management that forever set in motion an adversarial relationship where none should exist -- it being, after all, in both labor and management's best interests for a business to be successful -- and unreasonable government regulatory practices that inserted government ever more insidiously into the mechanisms that allow business and industry to be successful and profitable.
Marxism is never successfully sprouted, fed, nurtured and grown to full bloom in revolution. Seventy years of utter failure in the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, etc., proves that. It is an infestation, slithering and crawling in unnoticed, unheralded, and unrebuked, until it suddenly springs forth in the field of a nation like an infestation of grubs, even though overwhelming in number not being spotted for what they are until the crop begins to die. That is precisely what we have in this nation. We've elected a man to the highest office whose carefully controlled and nefarious background has been kept under wraps. But we know, nonetheless, that he is an anti-colonialist like his father, his uncle, his half-brothers, all of whom tend toward Marxism. He was mentored by a hand-picked (by his white grandfather) Marxist instructor, Frank Marshall Davis, a literal card-carrying member of the Communist Party -- Party number 47544. Davis edited and wrote for Party-line publications such as the Honolulu Record and the Chicago Star, which included contributors who served as actual agents to Stalin’s Soviet Union. Davis may have been one of them, but that has never been completely established. The man who would be our pretend president left Hawaii to go to Chicago, where he came under the influence of several more leading socialist/Marxist types, including Bill Ayers, a former Weatherman who bombed several buildings including the U.S. Capitol. Davis' and Ayer's protégé is now our "president." This is how Marxism becomes a successful form of government, not at gunpoint, but at the manipulated ballot box.
Poncho and your worry so much about corporate conspiracies and big business running the country, and he has completely missed the reality of a communist takeover, quietly, of our government, and it is almost a completed reality. Then you have others who are cheerleaders for those who are driving this takeover, and they love it when you and Ponch post the nonsense you do, because it fits their concept of "right" even though that concept is warped, twisted and unknowingly supports the eventual Marxist takeover we are facing.
There is no such thing as "extreme capitalism." That is a concept born of those who hate a free enterprise system because it hinders their ability to acquire the power, wealth and conspicuous consumption of the elite ruling class. You decry the "1%." When the Marxists complete their takeover, it won't be as much as 1/1000th of a percent who control all the wealth, all the lawmaking powers, even the power of life and death over anyone who dares oppose them. It will be like the 1950s Soviet Union, and you won't have the freedom to speak of what will then be a real and true hatred and fear of them as you have heretofore been able to spread irrational fear and hate of capitalism and democratic government.
I uphold the rule of law, as it is written, introduced as legislation, and legally passed by our duly elected representatives, even if some of those laws may not be to my liking.That is how democracy works. It is government of the people, by the people, and for the people. The people speak through their representatives, but ours have now been subrogated by the influences of this insidious Marxist influence which has taken over a party and now threatens to take over a country. Marxist rule is by "a pen and a phone," not a legal vote taken among duly elected legislators.
That's because it is, and it is about to kill our nation.
You've drunk the Kool-Aid yourself, preferring to believe that supporters of democracy and free enterprise are the "enemies of the state" when it is in fact you who have enabled the assassination of democracy by wrapping your brain and your soul around ideas that are useless and irrelevant to running a nation. Marxists constantly stir up the people, getting them to decry "attacks on our freedoms" when those "attacks" are, in reality, reasonable governance by the people through their elected representatives. Through fake issues issues like "legalize pot," "national security is destroying our personal freedoms," "this nation is imperial in nature," and other lies, they distract the gullible masses with nonsense while they go about instituting their demon rule, attaching the fears of the people to their opposition when, in fact, it is they who threaten freedom, liberty, and pursuit of personal happiness and fulfillment. This is how they taking over of our nation, and they use unsuspecting neophytes with no basis for wading into these waters, having you accuse others of doing what, in reality, you have brought about.
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poncho
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The problem with all that is we no longer live in a capitalist system with free trade. We live in a corporatist monopoly system where the banks are allowed to continue to privatize their profits and socialize their losses the big multinational corporations write the regulations that congress which depends on the hand outs from the big multinationals to continue their careers in politics and profitable business investments readily pass that strangle the monopoly men's competitors and transfers wealth from the middle class and poor to the top .01%. Free enterprise is enemy number one to those you mistakenly champion as "capitalists". They are nothing of the sort. They are in deed and purpose parasites that are sucking the life blood out this country at an ever increasing rate.
I know you don't believe this and probably never will. The reality of it would probably be too much for you to bear if you ever did. But that's the way it is. The system you keep defending is not capitalism at all. It's corporatism. The merging of government and corporate power. It's as plain to see as your love of big centralized authoritarian government.
TND is correct in one respect it is so true that individual rights are BAD BAD BAD!!! They only serve to protect criminals, shirkers and anti government types that can't get it through their thick empty liberal skulls that licking the authorities boots is the highest form of patriotism there ever was or is.
So I agree with TND. The founders of this country made a dreadful mistake by giving the states so much power and putting crazy notions like individual rights in the people's heads. An all powerful central planning board would be much preferable to a republican form of government with power spread between three branches of government with the states and the people having the final say in how they are to be governed. Representative government is darn dangerous. The people were given to much power and freedom. It's a threat to national security and our very survival as a nation!!!
Anyone who thinks different is an absolute idiot and a danger to an orderly society and ought to be sent to Gitmo and water boarded every day to think about their lack of patriotism and how it endangers us all for the rest of their miserable stupid liberal sissified worthless lives.
The peasants shouldn't be allowed to dabble in dangerous ideas like individual liberty. It's dangerous! We'd all be better off if we just stop thinking foolish thoughts about rights and liberties and just be good citizens that serve the state like Romans 13 commands us to do. We can do it as democrats or republicans. Preferably as republicans but it doesn't really matter which group we chosse to belong to so long as we can agree in a bipartisan fashion that the state is the ultimate group and service to it is the absolute duty of every American and the highest form of patriotism there is. Period!
Isn't that about right, TND?
I know you don't believe this and probably never will. The reality of it would probably be too much for you to bear if you ever did. But that's the way it is. The system you keep defending is not capitalism at all. It's corporatism. The merging of government and corporate power. It's as plain to see as your love of big centralized authoritarian government.
TND is correct in one respect it is so true that individual rights are BAD BAD BAD!!! They only serve to protect criminals, shirkers and anti government types that can't get it through their thick empty liberal skulls that licking the authorities boots is the highest form of patriotism there ever was or is.
So I agree with TND. The founders of this country made a dreadful mistake by giving the states so much power and putting crazy notions like individual rights in the people's heads. An all powerful central planning board would be much preferable to a republican form of government with power spread between three branches of government with the states and the people having the final say in how they are to be governed. Representative government is darn dangerous. The people were given to much power and freedom. It's a threat to national security and our very survival as a nation!!!
Anyone who thinks different is an absolute idiot and a danger to an orderly society and ought to be sent to Gitmo and water boarded every day to think about their lack of patriotism and how it endangers us all for the rest of their miserable stupid liberal sissified worthless lives.
The peasants shouldn't be allowed to dabble in dangerous ideas like individual liberty. It's dangerous! We'd all be better off if we just stop thinking foolish thoughts about rights and liberties and just be good citizens that serve the state like Romans 13 commands us to do. We can do it as democrats or republicans. Preferably as republicans but it doesn't really matter which group we chosse to belong to so long as we can agree in a bipartisan fashion that the state is the ultimate group and service to it is the absolute duty of every American and the highest form of patriotism there is. Period!
Isn't that about right, TND?
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You said a mouthful!
That day isn't far from being reality ... and I don't mean the Rapture. The day is coming when the entitled, who are nearly out numbering the working class, will fight to hold on to their way of life.
Then we will pray for the Rapture ... but, it still may be a ways off!
That day isn't far from being reality ... and I don't mean the Rapture. The day is coming when the entitled, who are nearly out numbering the working class, will fight to hold on to their way of life.
Then we will pray for the Rapture ... but, it still may be a ways off!