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Ok I Am Tired Of Huckabee

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Martin

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At one time, not too long ago, I liked Mike Huckabee. No, he was never my first choice but I had a lot of respect for him. Now I find myself wondering what he is up to. According to a recent news report, Huckabee sees himself as the one who will "deny front runner John McCain the nomination". That is an amazing statement. Here is a man who has fallen far behind McCain, who is at best a long shot to win Texas, yet he believes he can remove McCain from front runner status and deny him the Republican nomination. I want some of whatever Huckabee has been drinking because, whatever it is, it makes one totally unaware of reality. Huckabee has gone from being a serious contender to an "also ran" who refused to give up. It is time for Huckabee, and James Dobson, to face reality and go from there. That means that Huckabee needs to withdraw from the race and Dobson needs to get off the latest "evangelical" bandwagon. Don't worry about Dobson, I am sure he will find another wagon to jump on soon (he usually does). Maybe he can join Jack Van Impe in predicting the final day of history or he can follow Pat Robertson's latest health/workout plan :laugh: . Back to Huckabee. The man had a chance to be VP, which would have been great, but he has ruined that. And as far as this "right-wing, evangelical, Christian" is concerned Huckabee is not setting himself up as the conservative alternative to anyone. In my mind he is setting himself up as the poor loser of the year. There comes a point in any venture when reality has to set in. Either it is working or it is not working. In Huckabee's case it stopped working several weeks ago. It is time for him to move on.

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TomVols

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The fact that Huckabee is still in may be helping McCain for the Fall. With Huckabee in the race, McCain needs to get some conservatives on his side to finish off the nomination. This helps McCain shore up the entire GOP and keeps McCain honest. This will help differentiate McCain for the General Election. So it may help McCain in the long run.
 
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tinytim

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He is giving the conservatives a choice to vote for in the primaries... I think he truly realizes that McCain will win the nomination... but he is giving us conservatives a chance to tell McCain that he better not ignore us....

The sad thing is, I have supported him, but by the time I get to vote in the primaries here in WV in May, McCain will have completely gotten the nod from the RNC.. so my vote will mean nothing!!!
 
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saturneptune

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tinytim said:
He is giving the conservatives a choice to vote for in the primaries... I think he truly realizes that McCain will win the nomination... but he is giving us conservatives a chance to tell McCain that he better not ignore us....

The sad thing is, I have supported him, but by the time I get to vote in the primaries here in WV in May, McCain will have completely gotten the nod from the RNC.. so my vote will mean nothing!!!
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Our primary is May 20th, and still intend to vote for Huckabee. McCain has the nomination, but he needs to get the conservative message as long as primaries are scheduled.
 
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Martin

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PastorSBC1303 said:
I agree with Tom, I think it is actually helping McCain.
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I don't believe a "brokered convention" is good for anyone. Huckabee needs to be a good sport and step aside.


saturneptune said:
Our primary is May 20th, and still intend to vote for Huckabee. McCain has the nomination, but he needs to get the conservative message as long as primaries are scheduled.
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I don't have a problem with people voting for Huckabee since, for some odd reason, he is still in the race. If people want to vote for him they can. However voting for Huckabee is not going to make McCain more conservative. McCain is a conservative. Is he as conservative as I am? No, but he is a conservative. I would argue that he is the same type of conservative as George W Bush. Therefore it makes no sense to me why some conservatives love Bush and hate McCain. It seems so very contradictory.
 
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Martin

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PastorSBC1303 said:
With the commanding lead McCain has how would it end up being a brokered convention?
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I don't know. I am just using Mike Huckabee's words. A brokered convention is his goal.
 
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TomVols

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I don't think that will happen. I know I didn't allude to it. I think Huckabee will drop out once McCain gets the necessary delegates, as he said he would.
 
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Ps104_33

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Why Huckabee would stay in when he knows mathematically he has no chance just shows his real motive. Its all about him. He loves the limelight and media attention. Dont forget. He is a Baptist preacher.
 
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EdSutton

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Why do I see no one here asking the same questions or (apparently) holding the same views regarding Sen. Mike Gravel, Rep. Ron Paul, or Amb. Alan Keyes?

FTR technically, Sen. John Edwards, Mayor Rudy Guiliani, Gov. Mitt Romney, and I believe both Sen. Fred Thompson and Rep. Duncan Hunter all 'suspened' their campaigns, as opposed to "dropping out" completely. I do not know about any of the other other candidates. They all, at least, still would have a small bit of influence on their delegates, and could come into play if either convention were 'brokered', although I don't think that is very likely in the case of the Republican party, unless something totally unforseen happens.

Were something to happen, (remember the MO and MN Senate races when Gov. Callahan and Sen. Wellstone died in plane accidents, or current SD Sen. Tim Johnson suffering a stroke, suddenly) who is the logical candidate 'left standing' to rally behind - Sen. George Allen, maybe? Probably not, IMO.

Duh -

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Martin

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EdSutton said:
Why do I see no one here asking the same questions or (apparently) holding the same views regarding Sen. Mike Gravel, Rep. Ron Paul, or Amb. Alan Keyes?
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==Probably because none of those guys are pulling large amounts of votes and delegates. Huckabee has won a respectable number of states and has around 251 delegates. Paul, Keyes, and Gravel have not. Paul only has 17 delegates. Alan Keyes and Gravel have not even placed in the primaries.

O, and I just saw the delegate count on the Republican race. McCain has 1,055 delegates out of a needed 1,191. McCain is the nominee of the Republican Party. Huckabee is doing no good in this race anymore. It is time for him to step down. As for the non-placers, they can do what they want. Very few people are paying serious attention to them.
 
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just-want-peace

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Martin said:
I don't believe a "brokered convention" is good for anyone. Huckabee needs to be a good sport and step aside.




I don't have a problem with people voting for Huckabee since, for some odd reason, he is still in the race. If people want to vote for him they can. However voting for Huckabee is not going to make McCain more conservative. McCain is a conservative. Is he as conservative as I am? No, but he is a conservative. I would argue that he is the same type of conservative as George W Bush. Therefore it makes no sense to me why some conservatives love Bush and hate McCain. It seems so very contradictory.
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Can't answer for anybody else, but Bush was by far the best choice for me in the last two elections, and it was not cause I "love" him; not as you use the term. As far as hating McCain - well I certainly hope you are just using literary license here, cause I don't hate him, just don't like his version of "conservative".

Same type conservative as GB? Perhaps, but I don't think so. I see McCain as much more liberal than GWB; in fact I would classify McCain as "liberal lite" and conservative primarily when compared to Obama. Sure he has a few conservative traits that I like - his stance on the war for instance - but he's far from what I would call conservative.

Anyway, nothing contridictory here, just making the best choice available at the time.

Course I guess "conservative" has shifted left over the years, sorta like country music ain't nothing like what I call country anymore.

I guess I'm just getting too old to calmly accept change, but when I see change either just for the sake of change, OR for the worse, I get a bit grumpy!

But no matter in the long run, cause He is still in control despite what Rove or Pelosi or Bush, or Obama (et al) believe.

Now before some of you get your panties in a wad and start yelling for a "linkie" for my last statement, there ain't one, but it's true regardless!!!

MARANATHA!!!
 
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KenH

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just-want-peace said:
sorta like country music ain't nothing like what I call country anymore.
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I totally agree. That's why I became a bluegrass fan about 7 years ago. :)
 
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TomVols

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Ps104_33 said:
Why Huckabee would stay in when he knows mathematically he has no chance just shows his real motive. Its all about him. He loves the limelight and media attention. Dont forget. He is a Baptist preacher.
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Got something against Baptist ministers?
 
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