One Bible only, which one!

The Geneva Bible of 1565.
It has my eschatology simple and direct:

2 Thessalonians 2:3 (Geneva Bible):
Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that
day shall not come, except there come a
departing first, and that that man of sinne
be disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition,

 

The same one I use normally...NKJV

 

NKJV or NASB

 

Greek

 

Ed, are you saying "departing is the rapture"?

This HAS to be a joke, Yeah, okay, you got me.

2Th 2:3

(ALT) Let no one deceive you* by any means, because [that Day will not come] unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction [or, the one destined to be lost],

(BBE) Give no belief to false words: because there will first be a falling away from the faith, and the revelation of the man of sin, the son of destruction,

(CEV) But don't be fooled! People will rebel against God. Then before the Lord returns, the wicked one who is doomed to be destroyed will appear.

(Darby) Let not any one deceive you in any manner, because it will not be unless the apostasy have first come, and the man of sin have been revealed, the son of perdition;

(DRB) Let no man deceive you by any means: for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition

(EMTV) Let no one deceive you by any means; for that day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is unveiled, the son of perdition,

(ESV) Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

(GB) Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sinne be disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition,

(GNT) μή τις ὑμᾶς ἐξαπατήσῃ κατὰ μηδένα τρόπον· ὅτι ἐὰν μὴ ἔλθῃ ἡ ἀποστασία πρῶτον καὶ ἀποκαλυφθῇ ὁ ἄνθρωπος τῆς ἁμαρτίας, ὁ υἱὸς τῆς ἀπωλείας,

(GNT-TR) μη τις υμας εξαπατηση κατα μηδενα τροπον οτι εαν μη ελθη η αποστασια πρωτον και αποκαλυφθη ο ανθρωπος της αμαρτιας ο υιος της απωλειας

(GNT-WH+) μη3361 PRT-N τις5100 X-NSM υμας5209 P-2AP εξαπατηση1818 V-AAS-3S κατα2596 PREP μηδενα3367 A-ASM τροπον5158 N-ASM οτι3754 CONJ εαν1437 COND μη3361 PRT-N ελθη2064 V-2AAS-3S η3588 T-NSF αποστασια646 N-NSF πρωτον4412 ADV και2532 CONJ αποκαλυφθη601 V-APS-3S ο3588 T-NSM ανθρωπος444 N-NSM της3588 T-GSF ανομιας458 N-GSF ο3588 T-NSM υιος5207 N-NSM της3588 T-GSF απωλειας684 N-GSF

(KJV+) Let no3361 man5100 deceive1818 you5209 by2596 any3367 means:5158 for3754 that day shall not come, except3362 there come2064 a falling away646 first,4412 and2532 that man444 of sin266 be revealed,601 the3588 son5207 of perdition;684

(KJV-1611) Let no man deceiue you by any meanes, for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sinne bee reuealed, the sonne of perdition,

(LITV) Do not let anyone deceive you in any way, because that Day will not come unless first comes the falling away, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,

(UPDV) let no man beguile you+ in any wise: for [it will not be,] except the falling away comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition,

(YLT) let not any one deceive you in any manner, because--if the falling away may not come first, and the man of sin be revealed--the son of the destruction,

 

Good choice, which one: MT, TR, or CT?

 

Why what else? KJV (any edition) of course!!!

Greg Sr.

 

That's tough... I'd have to say NASB... nooo.. NKJV.

 

NASB

 

Phillip: //Ed, are you saying "departing is the rapture"?

This HAS to be a joke, Yeah, okay, you got me.//

Don't quote post KJV1611, quote the 8 translations before
1600. All use a form of departure.

More proof:

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The Thessalonians were familiar with
this saying of Jesus which we now find
recorded in Matthew 24:13 (KJV1873):

But he that shall endure unto
the end, the same shall be saved.

But some said of their friend "He got
sick and died before Jesus came to
get him, poor soul."

Paul addresses this problem in
a clearly pretribulation rapture passage
1 Thessalonians 4:13 - 5:11,
one of the most comforting passages in the
Bible.

1 Thessalonians 4:13 - 5:11 (nKJV):

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant,
brethren, concerning those who have fallen
asleep, lest you sorrow as others who
have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and
rose again, even so God will bring with Him
those who sleep in Jesus.
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord,
that we who are alive and remain until
the coming of the Lord will by no means
precede those who are asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself will descend
from heaven with a shout, with the voice
of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.
And the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are alive and remain
shall be caught up (raptured)
together with them in the clouds to meet
the Lord in the air. And thus we shall
always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
5:1 But concerning the times and the seasons,
brethren, you have no need that I should
write to you.
2 For you yourselves know perfectly that
the day of the Lord so comes as a thief
in the night.
3 For when they say, "Peace and safety!"
then sudden destruction comes upon them,
as labor pains upon a pregnant woman.
And they shall not escape.
4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness,
so that this Day should overtake
you as a thief.
5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day.
We are not of the night nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as others do,
but let us watch and be sober.
7 For those who sleep, sleep at night,
and those who get drunk are drunk at night.
8 But let us who are of the day be sober,
putting on the breastplate of faith and love,
and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
9 For God did not appoint us to wrath,
but to obtain salvation through our
Lord Jesus Christ,
10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep,
we should live together with Him.
11 Therefore comfort each other and edify
one another, just as you also are doing.

Later the Thessalonians wondered if they
had missed the rapture. Paul corrects this
in a second letter:

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 (nKJV):

1 Now, brethren, concerning
the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ
and our gathering together to Him,
we ask you,
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled,
either by spirit or by word or by letter,
as if from us, as though the day of Christ
had come.
3 Let no one deceive you by any means;
for that Day will not come unless
the falling away comes first,
and the man of sin
is revealed, the son of perdition,

The falling away that comes first
is the Rapture!
Then the man of sin is revealed, the
antichrist. Then the Tribulation period
begins.

There is nothing HAS TO HAPPEN before
the rapture.
Here are some things that could happen
before the rapture but they do NOT
have to happen.

1) The destruction of Damascus (Isaiah 17)
2) the Ezekiel 38 Gog/Magog invastion
(the Ezekiel 39 and Revelation 20:8
Gog/Magog invasion will be after the
Tribulation period)
3) the building of a Temple in Jerusalem
on Mount Zion north of and alongside
the Dome of the Rock.

But again, these things do not HAVE
TO HAPPEN before the rapture, they may
happen after the rapture; they could happen
before the rapture. They do not HAVE TO
HAPPEN before the imminent pretribulation
rapture.

 

Which of the three commonly
available do you really use?

KJV1611
KJV1769 (includs KJV1762 and American rip offs)
KJV1873 (may be KJV1850)

 

Well, a parallel Bible with KJV, NASB, NKJV, and Greek. Maybe, a fudge, but it's one Bible.

 

Dr. Bob

I don't GET your joke

 

Does anyone else on this message board besides El Guero believe that the New Testament was translated from Aramaic originals?

 

I have used the NASB with good success for all 9+ purposes. The youngest children that I have taught using the NASB were in the second grade, and occasionally a few details had to be explained, but of course that is nearly infinitely easier than explaining the KJV to a college student who has never studied Middle English. The New Century Version is translated at the third grade reading level, but how do you explain to a seven-year-old why the New Century Version doesn’t sound anything like the Bible? For Children under seven years of age, I would be inclined to augment the NASB using Bible story books written by conservative Christian authors who specialize in writing such books. When Bibles are dummied-down, they make both God and the teacher sound like dummies—and in my personal opinion that is undesirable.

 

Hey Philip, what Greek font is that, that you're using? It shows up on my screen, I assume it shows up on most other people's screen as well?

If so, how can I use it on here?

For the topic, if I had to pick just one English translation, it'd be the NASB