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Opening up this statement of belief

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Hete is a short statement of what I believe.

@JesusFan has read this several times and concludes that it is a "new" belief that is "not found in the scriptures". @Brightfame52 and @Martin Marprelate find it unbiblical.

I grant I could have strayed from Scripture (as all of us "see through a glass, dimly"). But I cannot find anything that is outright unbiblical or even new.

So that I can refine the statement, and correct it if needed, please let me know which points are not found in God's Word (and which h ones are new). I think I can provide passages for all of it, but if not then I need to examine more closely.

Thanks.


God created Adam from the dust, planted a Garden and placed Adam there. God commanded Adam not to eat of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil . God told Adam that in the day he ate of the fruit death would be certain. Adam transgressed God’s command and his eyes were opened. God told Adam that because of his transgression he would work the land (the land was cursed) until he died, for he was dust and to dust he would return. God told the Serpent that he would put enmity between him and the woman, and between their offspring, that He would crush its head and he would strike His heel.

Adam had become like God, knowing good and evil. So that he would not take from the Tree of Life and live forever, God cast Adam out of the Garden, back to the place from which he was created.
Through Adam’s sin death entered the world and spread to all man, for all have sinned. Sin was in the world before God gave the Law, but sin was not charged against people as a transgression as they did not break a command. Nevertheless, death reigned even where there was no law because of sin.

Just as through the disobedience of one man, Adam the many were made sinners , so also through the obedience of the one man, Christ, the many will be made righteous.

The wages of sin is death, for sin produces death. Death spread to all because all have sinned. It is appointed man once to die and then the Judgment. I believe that God became man (truly man) like us but without sin. He bore our sins bodily on the cross. God became one of us so that we would become like Him and share in His glory.

The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is life in Christ Jesus. Jesus bore our sins bodily, He died for our sins, He was made sin for us. Men esteemed Him as stricken by God but it is by His stripes we were healed.

God set forth Jesus as a Propitiation. He is the Propitiation for the sins of the whole world. It pleased God to crush Him, He died by the means of the wicked, but this was God's predetermined plan.

Christ became a life giving Spirit. Although we die so shall we live. God recreates us in Chriat and conformed us into the image of Christ. In Christ there is no condemnation and we escape the wrath to come.
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
Hete is a short statement of what I believe.

@JesusFan has read this several times and concludes that it is a "new" belief that is "not found in the scriptures". @Brightfame52 and @Martin Marprelate find it unbiblical.

I grant I could have strayed from Scripture (as all of us "see through a glass, dimly"). But I cannot find anything that is outright unbiblical or even new.

So that I can refine the statement, and correct it if needed, please let me know which points are not found in God's Word (and which h ones are new). I think I can provide passages for all of it, but if not then I need to examine more closely.

Thanks.


God created Adam from the dust, planted a Garden and placed Adam there. God commanded Adam not to eat of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil . God told Adam that in the day he ate of the fruit death would be certain. Adam transgressed God’s command and his eyes were opened. God told Adam that because of his transgression he would work the land (the land was cursed) until he died, for he was dust and to dust he would return. God told the Serpent that he would put enmity between him and the woman, and between their offspring, that He would crush its head and he would strike His heel.

Adam had become like God, knowing good and evil. So that he would not take from the Tree of Life and live forever, God cast Adam out of the Garden, back to the place from which he was created.
Through Adam’s sin death entered the world and spread to all man, for all have sinned. Sin was in the world before God gave the Law, but sin was not charged against people as a transgression as they did not break a command. Nevertheless, death reigned even where there was no law because of sin.

Just as through the disobedience of one man, Adam the many were made sinners , so also through the obedience of the one man, Christ, the many will be made righteous.

The wages of sin is death, for sin produces death. Death spread to all because all have sinned. It is appointed man once to die and then the Judgment. I believe that God became man (truly man) like us but without sin. He bore our sins bodily on the cross. God became one of us so that we would become like Him and share in His glory.

The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is life in Christ Jesus. Jesus bore our sins bodily, He died for our sins, He was made sin for us. Men esteemed Him as stricken by God but it is by His stripes we were healed.

God set forth Jesus as a Propitiation. He is the Propitiation for the sins of the whole world. It pleased God to crush Him, He died by the means of the wicked, but this was God's predetermined plan.

Christ became a life giving Spirit. Although we die so shall we live. God recreates us in Chriat and conformed us into the image of Christ. In Christ there is no condemnation and we escape the wrath to come.
Where did the wrath of God the ftaher towards those who got saved go though? And are we born spiritually dead or not in Adam?
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Lol...."where did the wrath go?" That is a strange wording (like wrath is an electrical charge that must be discharged).

God's wrath does not "go" anywhere. The wicked are storing ip wrath for themselves which will be on the day of God's wrath when His righteousness judgment will be revealed.

The wicked will experience God's judgment against their wickedness. It does not "go" anywhere. They will experience the "second death".

Rom 1:18 "The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness"

Romans 2:5. But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.


NOW...

Back to YOUR claim.

I gave you my belief 6 times. You say it is a new belief that is not found in the scriptures

It is in the OP. (Post #1)

Point out which parts you cannot find in your Bible.
 
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