Over population

The average person is quite a bit shorter - remember, there are more women than men on average and a lot of kids. Even among men in their prime, Chinese men average about 5'8", Indians tend to be pretty short, except in the North West (two most populous nations), South American indigenous people also average shorter than Europeans. Two X two is awfully rotund for non-Americans.

If you took all the ants of the world and all the people and weighed them against each other, the ants would tip the scale. (Odd fact that is hard to work into conversations).

Each person really only needs a few inches of water to drown, if they are unconcious, face-down in a puddle.

I don't think the problem for most people is avoiding drowning but drinking clean water. Maybe the world doesn't look so crowded in Big Sky country, but land is not evenly distributed among the people of the world.

 

It is not just the land we occupy, but how much land we need to support us, e.g. growing food, having potable water, drilling for our oil, etc.

Still, who wants to live toe to toe with other people. Remember also, that population growth isn't linear...it is exponential.

Get too many people on the planet and war and disease will fix the problem, but not a pleasant way to do so.

 

http://mucklecart.phpnet.us/

Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood- http://www.radioliberty.com/pca.htm

http://www.impactpress.com/articles/febmar99/population2399.html

Population control, Abortion, euthensasia and environmental issues are all related and intertwined to many folks. It is all about worshipping the creation rather than the creator.

 

http://www.mises.org/econsense/ch41.asp

 

The thing about it is, at the current rate of population growth (which is very low) worldwide, if we continue at this rate, there will be one person for every two square feet of land on earth (including mountaintops and under icefields) in about 600 years. If you assume that there are 100,000 planets just like Earth, and we could get to them, and continue at the same rate of growth, it would take about 600 more years to have them all filled to the same level.

Population growth is a fairly recent problem, because of increased food supplies, better health, fewer war deaths, etc.

I personally think that Jesus will return before it's a problem, but since we are to be good stewards of the Earth, should we continue increasing willy-nilly?

 

The better question is should we force people to not reproduce? I shutter at the response I anticipate.

This mentality is tragic, ungodly, and disgusting.

 

http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/sindaco1/Infanticide.html

 

For those so inclined, there is always another alternative:

http://www.vhemt.org/

The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

 

You all forget to factor in wars and the new STDs which God is creating.

 

I didn't. Even with the wars and STDs, the population is still growing, albeit at a lower rate than the last few years.

 

Yes, I can. I don't really have the time right now, but it really gets on my nerves when people want to turn a blind ear (Algorism intentional) to a problem and just pretend that it doesn't exist. Please keep in mind that I am making no kind of proposal to correct the problem whatsoever, beyond voluntarily reducing the population growth on a personal level. (i.e. Don't have so many kids.) The only reasonable solution that I can see is... Well, there's not a reasonable solution, on the part of man. Short of the Lord coming back before it's a problem, what are we going to do?

Just the condensed version, without going into how the population remained fairly steady until the last few hundred years, with the increase in food production ability, better health care, etc., permitted the population to explode and double every few years until we've reached the numbers that we currently have. This also doesn't take into account problems of increased food usage, waste disposal, natural resources, etc.

Square miles on planed earth (including mountaintops, under ice sheets, etc.; we'll assume it's all inhabitable to give us a little longer): 57,268,900

This translates into square feet: 1.5965653 × 10^15 (That's 10 to the 15th, but I can't figure out how to make superscript here.)

At 2 square feet per person, which would literally be standing room only on the entire face of the planet (land area only), there is room for 798,282,650,000,000.

Current world population: We are going to use 7 billion to make an easy number to deal with. Currently, there are officially 6.65 billion, but with .3 billion uncounted Chinese, that makes it 6.95 billion. Besides, for your side of the argument, I'm giving you a bunch of unusable land.

If you double the current population, at 16 doublings, there would be 917,504,000,000,000 people, which is more than standing room only, but 15 doublings only leaves us with 458,752,000,000,000 people, which isn't quite standing room only.

How long does it take to double the population at the current rate of growth? Well, the current rate of growth is down to 1.3%, so this gives a bit more time than. At 1.3%, the population will double every 53.8 years or so. So, I'll give you a little more time and round it up to 54 years. (This also makes it easier to calculate.) But, since the growth rate is down to 1.3% (The last time I did the math, it was 1.8%, and by some estimations, it still is; but, due to the inability to calculate much of the growth that is occurring in the third world, I'll give your arguemnt the extra benefit of the doubt.), the population will double 16 times in 864 years.

So, by reducing the population growth from 1.8% down to 1.3%, you have gained about 250 years before everyone has to stand shoulder to shoulder on the entire face of the planet.

 

It's gonna overflow