Michael Wrenn
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To all pastors and prospective pastors: If you feel called to this office, would you serve without pay if necessary?
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I have served without pay for 32 years out of 35 years and am now retired but filling the pulpit without pay.
If hubby were called to be a pastor and the congregation expected him to work full time, he would have to be paid.
But if he were allowed to work part time to allow himself to work an outside job, yes he would. He could actually make more money working part time as a computer consultant than he makes working at church. Heck, more than BOTH of us currently working at church.
But if he were allowed to work part time to allow himself to work an outside job, yes he would. He could actually make more money working part time as a computer consultant than he makes working at church. Heck, more than BOTH of us currently working at church.
Churches that do not pay their pastor cannot fulfill the duties and responsibilities as a church. Nothing in scripture ever indicates that pastors should serve without due compensation. A pastor who is not compensated is cannot be available to perform the duties of a pastor. He may be able to fill the pulpit but a pulpit filler is not a pastor.
I understand what you are saying and I partly agree with it. However, that would leave small churches without any leadership, that would provide for their Pastor if they were capable but can't.
I agree that any church capable of providing for their Pastor but does not is disobedient to God's Word.
However, with the exception of two churches, I have pastored small churches that give what they can but were unable to provide enough to support any Pastor.
Having to work a full time job has limited my ability to minister to the church the way I would like to. However, the other alternative is that such churches be totally without anyone to provide preaching, teaching and at least some measure of pastoring.
The op suggested without any pay. I have been bivo myself.
>Churches that do not pay their pastor cannot fulfill the duties and responsibilities as a church.
The Plymouth Brethern have not had paid pastors for 150 years but now days some of them have been corrupted by Baptist traditions. Des Moines Gospel Chapel (Des Moines, WA) gave half their annual budget to foreign missions when I attended. Is that fulfilling a Christian duty?
The PBs I have known are the most "Christian" people I have know. It is their their theology I disagree with. They INVENTED dispensationalism 150 years ago and they "converted" most Baptists to it. <G>
http://www.plymouthbrethren.com/
http://www.plymouthbrethren.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Brethren
The Plymouth Brethern have not had paid pastors for 150 years but now days some of them have been corrupted by Baptist traditions. Des Moines Gospel Chapel (Des Moines, WA) gave half their annual budget to foreign missions when I attended. Is that fulfilling a Christian duty?
The PBs I have known are the most "Christian" people I have know. It is their their theology I disagree with. They INVENTED dispensationalism 150 years ago and they "converted" most Baptists to it. <G>
http://www.plymouthbrethren.com/
http://www.plymouthbrethren.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Brethren
Michael Wrenn
New Member
The Primitive Baptists don't believe in salaried pastors, either.
One of the advantages of celibrate pastors!! We do not pay our MIB but they are supported by the Church (us) which is why the RCC has 2 collections. The first to keep body and soul together, and the second for the endless projects.
I think this is wrongly spelt, help please!
I think this is wrongly spelt, help please!
Melanie - I think you mean "celibate".
Ta Ann, although one can be celibate amd celibrate of course:laugh:
If I could find another vocation that would provide for my family, I would be willing to plan and lead the music at my church without pay. (It's what I do now, with pay).
I doubt it. LOL
Ann, Ann, Ann.....:tongue3:
I've been on both ends of the spectrum. I've made more than I was worth in a mainline denomination and I've made little to nothing pastoring a church plant.
revmitchell said:
You've been bi-vo. I'm sure you've done your share of fitting visits in between work, skipping dinner and time with the kids. I usually burn up all my personal days on church business. There are just times that I can't get to the folks in person. I lead and teach to the best of my ability. I know, regardless of how honed my skills are, I haven't figured out how to be two places at the same time. I'm fortunate to have two elders that step up and see the folks when I cannot.
SovereignMercy
Member
The apostle Paul did both. I have always been in "secular employment" and can never be accused of being in it for the money nor tickling peoples ears to keep it coming. I am not saying it is wrong for a pastor to be supported either. I have found more opportunities to be a witness for Christ this way as well and those I minister to know I understand what they go through daily.
Old Union Brother
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Neither do the Old Regular Baptist. I've been one for 31 years and my mission field is my high school classroom!
Michael Wrenn
New Member
And a fertile field it is, friend. I taught school for a good number of years, so I can confirm that you surely know whereof you speak.
Although I've never been called to preach/pastor/whatever, I DID CELEBRATE MY 66 YEARS OF CELIBACY this past May!! :thumbsup:Melanie - I think you mean "celibate".
It's 4:50am. I'm leaving for work now. I'll get home around 6 tonight. I'll take a quick shower and go see Betty at the hospital. She had surgery yesterday. I'll get home around 9 and finally get to see some of the family. Most of Saturday will be spent in preparation for Sunday. Half the folks won't be there Sunday because the all claim to need one last time at their various lakeside camps and other vacation spots. Monday is a holiday. Otherwise I'd be getting up at 4am and starting the cycle all over again. :flower: