Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

[gaviria.christian]

Paper money and fiat currency is the true mark of the beast of Revelation, for the mark of the beast is symbolic, and the right hand symbolizes authority to buy and sell once a person possesses fiat currency and the forehead symbolizes debt of fiat currency to buy and sell, like credit cards and mortgages. And fiat currency is issued to everyone great and small and rich and poor, and is illegal to buy and sell without according to the law of legal tender, which condemns the entire world, for the mere possession of a false weight breaks the command of the Torah, "you shall have righteous balances and weights" and "you shall not have in your bag a weight and another weight, a heavy and a light", which is what fiat currency is, a false weight and false number. And that is why 666 refers to "666 talents of gold" in the Tanakh, for paper money was issued to represent gold then was devalued then the backing of gold was taken away from it, which then also became fiat currency, which left people buying and selling with mere names, the "name of the beast", through paper money, "dollars", "pesos", "pounds", which were all formerly names of weights like "talent", which were used to derive the value of gold based on weight, hence "666 talents of gold", and people were also left buying and selling with mere numbers, through modern banking, the "number of the name", for paper money is not even exchanged, just mere numbers taken from bank account and added to another bank account, based on the false weight of the name of fiat currency. Read my bible study that discusses this matter extensively in the context of the identity of the beast and prostitute of Revelation The Identity of the Beast of Revelation, the Antichrist, the Prostitute of Babylon, the Mark of the Beast, and the Meaning of 666 | Wisdom of God .

 

[Shoostie]

Paper money and fiat currency is the true mark of the beast of Revelation,

Paper money? You need to update your false doctrine. Paper money is becoming obsolete, and would be gone if beastly governments had their way.

For people afraid of the government's money, we now have crypto currency to buy and sell things. Other than barter, for the first time in history, people are being freed from government money.

 

[gaviria.christian]

Paper money? You need to update your false doctrine. Paper money is becoming obsolete, and would be gone if beastly governments had their way.

For people afraid of the government's money, we now have crypto currency to buy and sell things. Other than barter, for the first time in history, people are being freed from government money.

Did you skip over the word "fiat currency" when the word "paper money" became a stumbling block to you to deny this truth? Fiat currency was first paper money when it was issued to represent gold, and once the backing of gold was removed decades later, it also became fiat currency, which is even worse, because it left people buying and selling with mere names and numbers that have nothing to do with weights and value of gold.

 

[InTheLight]

because it left people buying and selling with mere names and numbers that have nothing to do with weights and value of gold.

And don't governments decide how much gold is worth?

 

[gaviria.christian]

And don't governments decide how much gold is worth?

Governments decide how much paper money and fiat currency is worth, but 1 ounce of gold is the same 1 ounce of gold tomorrow, because the true value of gold is based on its weight, as it has been for thousands of years. What changes is the value of fiat currency, which is worth less and less by the day, which then makes it more expensive to acquire the same 1 ounce of gold over time. That is why 100 years ago 1 ounce of gold was $21 USD, now it is around $1,500 USD. It's not that the value of gold has gone up, its that the value of fiat currency has gone down. We are poorer, not richer.

 

[Shoostie]

Did you skip over the word "fiat currency" when the word "paper money" became a stumbling block to you to deny this truth? Fiat currency was first paper money when it was issued to represent gold, and once the backing of gold was removed decades later, it also became fiat currency, which is even worse, because it left people buying and selling with mere names and numbers that have nothing to do with weights and value of gold.

I didn't skip fiat currency. I just didn't get to it. You brought up paper money first, and I addressed. I didn't address every thing you said, but I could.

Fiat currency exists because anything else is impractical, not because of some government conspiracy. Silver coins and paper money both are produced by the king and have the king's face. Neither one is any more the mark of the beast than the other. Both are equal in allowing one to buy or sell. And, neither is a "mark" in the first place.

 

[gaviria.christian]

I didn't skip fiat currency. I just didn't get to it. You brought up paper money first, and I addressed. I didn't address every thing you said, but I could.

Fiat currency exists because anything else is impractical, not because of some government conspiracy. Silver coins and paper money both are produced by the king and have the king's face. Neither one is any more the mark of the beast than the other. Both are equal in allowing one to buy or sell. And, neither is a "mark" in the first place.

It's not because nothing else is impractical, its because bankers cannot steal through something that cannot be devalued, which is gold. 1 ounce of gold today is the same 1 ounce of gold tomorrow, because its value is based on weight, and it has been for thousands of years. Whereas paper money has a perceived number assigned to it, which bankers can steal through it, by devaluation. Before fiat currency came to be, it was first paper money, which was issued to represent gold, then it was slowly devalued over decades, then the backing of gold was taken away, which then also became fiat currency. It's the worst type of debasement of money possible.

 

[InTheLight]

Governments decide how much paper money and fiat currency is worth, but 1 ounce of gold is the same 1 ounce of gold tomorrow, because the true value of gold is based on its weight, as it has been for thousands of years.

As a result of the Gold Reserve Act of 1934 the United States decreed that gold would now be worth $35 an ounce instead of $20.67 per ounce. There is nothing to stop governments from manipulating the worth of gold.

Also, anything can be a currency so long as people accept it as currency. There is nothing magic about gold. An economy could have a currency based on maple leafs, if everyone agreed to it.

 

[gaviria.christian]

As a result of the Gold Reserve Act of 1934 the United States decreed that gold would now be worth $35 an ounce instead of $20.67 per ounce. There is nothing to stop governments from manipulating the worth of gold.

Also, anything can be a currency so long as people accept it as currency. There is nothing magic about gold. An economy could have a currency based on maple leafs, if everyone agreed to it.

What changed is the worth of paper money, not the worth of gold. 1 ounce of gold was the same 1 ounce of gold. If you ask me to store 3 of your televisions at my shop, and I give you a certificate with a number 3 that can reclaim 3 televisions, but then 1 week later you come to my shop and I tell you that your 3 certificate that says 3 will can only claim 1 television, then I have robbed you. That is what has happened through paper money and fiat currency. The 3 televisions are the same 3 televisions, what has changed is the worth of your certificate, which I did to rob you. That is essentially what the banks have done to the world. They kept all the gold that they forced everyone to turn in by executive order, while leaving the world with mere paper and numbers.

 

[Shoostie]

It's not because nothing else is impractical, its because bankers cannot steal through something that cannot be devalued, which is gold.

There's not enough gold to back American dollars. And, I'm not keep on the government confiscating all the gold to try to do it. And, it hardly makes a difference. Fractional reserve lending means even by the gold standard, most dollars actually wouldn't be backed by gold. And, still, either way, there's no effect on anyone's ability to buy or sell.

 

[gaviria.christian]

There's not enough gold to back American dollars. And, I'm not keep on the government confiscating all the gold to try to do it. And, it hardly makes a difference. Fractional reserve lending means even by the gold standard, most dollars actually wouldn't be backed by gold. And, still, either way, there's no effect on anyone's ability to buy or sell.

There's alot of gold in the world, and still much of it on the earth that hasn't been extracted. And aside from gold, there is also silver, which is even more plentiful. There is no excuse to not have metals as money as it has been for thousands of years. It's just that people found new ways to steal, through the form of money itself, through paper money and fiat currency.

 

[Shoostie]

There's alot of gold in the world, and still much of it on the earth that hasn't been extracted. And aside from gold, there is also silver, which is even more plentiful. There is no excuse to not have metals as money as it has been for thousands of years. It's just that people found new ways to steal, through the form of money itself, through paper money and fiat currency.

Do you propose the government go out and dig up trillions of dollars worth of gold to back the dollar? And, it would still do little because even gold-backed dollars can be load out many times over, expanding the money supply with essentially unbacked dollars. And, still none of this has anything to do with the mark of the beast.

 

[gaviria.christian]

Do you propose the government go out and dig up trillions of dollars worth of gold to back the dollar? And, it would still do little because even gold-backed dollars can be load out many times over, expanding the money supply with essentially unbacked dollars. And, still none of this has anything to do with the mark of the beast.

I propose the governments give back the gold they've stolen through confiscation and hoarded in their central banks. It doesn't belong to them, it belongs to the people, who they forced to surrender to them, and then robbed everyone through devaluation then removing the backing of gold, and left people with mere paper while they kept all the gold. But this isn't going to happen, for the Messiah is the one that will destroy this entire financial system at his coming, and it will indeed collapse a few months prior, at the destruction of Vatican City.

 

[InTheLight]

Do you propose the government go out and dig up trillions of dollars worth of gold to back the dollar?

They could go out and dig tons of gold out of holes in the ground then put this gold in other holes in the ground (underground vaults), and station armed guards and security systems around them. Then issue paper money saying it is backed by this gold they have stored in the ground. And everyone would go along with the scheme.

Or they could SAY they've dug up all this gold and say they have it safely stored and issue paper money backed by this phantom gold they don't really have. And everyone would go along with the scheme.

Or they could simply forego any gold, issue paper money based on the full faith and credit of the United States and everyone would go along with the scheme.



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