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Paul's Gospel
- Thread starter Dustin
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I was unaware that they are...
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The grace through faith produces the good works. They are not teaching different Gospels.
Joseph Botwinick
Joseph Botwinick
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Paul was often teaching against Judaizers and works salvation, so he emphasized salvation by grace through faith. But if you notice, he never devalued works in the life of faith. His emphasis was that faith always produced works, the same as James.
Romans 8:12 So then, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh: 13 for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
1Corinthians 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. 8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. 9 Neither let us make trial of the Lord, as some of them made trial, and perished by the serpents. 10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them murmured, and perished by the destroyer. 11 Now these things happened unto them by way of example; and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come. 12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
Galatians 5:13 For ye, brethren, were called for freedom; only use not your freedom for an occasion to the flesh, but through love be servants one to another. 14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
Ephesians 2:8 for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not of works, that no man should glory. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God afore prepared that we should walk in them.
Philippians 2:12 So then, my beloved, even as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who worketh in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure.
Paul was no antinomian who suggested that faith without works is ok. Paul just didn't write with the same style as James. But they both said the same thing. If you do not have works, that proves you don't really have faith. Faith will produce works like a tree produces fruit.
Romans 8:12 So then, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh: 13 for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
1Corinthians 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. 8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. 9 Neither let us make trial of the Lord, as some of them made trial, and perished by the serpents. 10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them murmured, and perished by the destroyer. 11 Now these things happened unto them by way of example; and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come. 12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
Galatians 5:13 For ye, brethren, were called for freedom; only use not your freedom for an occasion to the flesh, but through love be servants one to another. 14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
Ephesians 2:8 for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not of works, that no man should glory. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God afore prepared that we should walk in them.
Philippians 2:12 So then, my beloved, even as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who worketh in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure.
Paul was no antinomian who suggested that faith without works is ok. Paul just didn't write with the same style as James. But they both said the same thing. If you do not have works, that proves you don't really have faith. Faith will produce works like a tree produces fruit.
What do you mean by "different"? Different as in they contradict one another, or do you mean that Paul added more information in his epistles?Originally posted by Dustin:
What i meant was like Paul taught grace through faith and not Law, yet James said faith without works is dead. Just differences like that. Is it because Paul going to Gentiles and not Jews?
As for Paul and James, they did not contradict one another. They were teaching on two different aspects of the Gospel.
Paul taught how to be saved. And James in the 2nd chapter of his epistle was warning against easy believism. He want folks to know for sure if they had been truly converted as per 2 Cor. 2:17. James was merely pointing out that true conversion always produces works. Eph. 2:8-10.
http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/JamesPau.htm