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  1. tinytim

    tinytim <img src =/tim2.jpg>

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    Is anyone going through the 40 days of purpose right now? Or have you went through it recently.

    This thread is not to be a "let's bash Rick" thread, if you want that you can go to http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/10/5974.html

    I want to know what you are getting out of it, or what you got out of it.

    Thank you, Tim
     
    #1 tinytim, Jan 14, 2006
  2. standingfirminChrist

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    The book really brought a warmth to me after reading the first 3 pages of it...

    ... I burned it in my fireplace.

    Notice I did not attack Rick Warren.
     
    #2 standingfirminChrist, Jan 14, 2006
  3. whatever

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    Well, that didn't take long.

    Tim, I'm interested in reading your thoughts on PDL as you go through it with your church. My church did it a couple of years ago, and I don't want to say much about it for fear of prejudicing your experience. I will say that I am glad that we did it, and that I didn't burn the book.
     
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  4. Linda64

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    My daughter in law asked me to look through the PDL book when their church was going through the 40 days of purpose--that was 2 years ago. I looked through it and gave her my opinion--here is what I told her. My opinion was not favorable-- I got nothing out of the book--and I told her to be very discerning. I also told her that the gospel of salvation was presented in a wishy washy way.

    So that is what I got of of the PDL--a big fat zero!!
     
    #4 Linda64, Jan 14, 2006
  5. standingfirminChrist

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    The message of the book was not Christ-centered. The message was more self-centered.

    We must be careful, too many people are seeking a user-friendly religion, a feel-good denomination where they can blend in and sin is overlooked. This book assists the reader in doing just that.
     
    #5 standingfirminChrist, Jan 14, 2006
  6. PastorSBC1303

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    Tim, you should have known this was coming when you posted this thread. Some on here just cannot miss a chance to bash someone else or their work no matter what you ask in the OP.

    My advice, study God's Word, pray and let the Holy Spirit guide you and your church during this campaign and it will be a meaningful time in your life.

    Good luck and God bless.
     
    #6 PastorSBC1303, Jan 15, 2006
  7. TaterTot

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    I was just about to say the same thing. Let God guide you and get out of this study what God will show you. Any time you are seeking, He will show you something.
     
    #7 TaterTot, Jan 15, 2006
  8. gb93433

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    The book is not written for those scholars who are making disciples who make disciples.

    When I hear people say they don't get much out of my sermon and I do not know them very well, there are times when I ask them to name some people by name who are living for Jesus Christ because of their life. I have never had one person criticize my sermons who could name at least one person who is living for Jesus Christ because of their life.

    One time I had a person who regularly criticized my sermons. So when I preached a sermon and that person came with their regular dose of criticism I asked him to show me an in-depth sermon Jesus preached. He could find none.

    Your posting reminds me of the story about a man who came to a church looking for friends and found none. So he came back again and decided to be a friend and found them all over.
     
    #8 gb93433, Jan 15, 2006
  9. standingfirminChrist

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    I have not bashed Rick Warren. The question asked was

    When a question such as that is given, it is open to positive or negative reviews on the subject at hand.

    May I also point out that it is in the debate section?
     
    #9 standingfirminChrist, Jan 15, 2006
  10. tinytim

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    Yeah I knew it. But I've chosen to just ignore bashers.

    Thank you. I am looking forward to it. I just don't see how a book that teaches us that we need to Worship, fellowship, disciple, do ministry and missions can be bad.

    After all those are what the early church was doing in Acts.

    I am already prejudiced, Whatever, as I already read the book, had to study the material for both the Sunday School classes and all other youth classes. Our youth department is built around the PDL youth concept. So I basically know what to expect.

    But I understand...
    knowing something is different from experiencing it.
    Just like Salvation.
     
    #10 tinytim, Jan 15, 2006
  11. TaterTot

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    The question was asking for postive feedback, and he specifically asked for no negative. Maybe it should have been placed somewhere else if ya want to get legalistic about it, LOL [​IMG]
     
    #11 TaterTot, Jan 15, 2006
  12. Brice

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    When a question such as that is given, it is open to positive or negative reviews on the subject at hand.

    May I also point out that it is in the debate section?     </font>[/QUOTE]Funny, but to me it seems he wanted opinions from those that went through it. You already admitted you burned it after three pages, thus undermining your own premise.
     
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    Good for you! [​IMG]

    Some people just love to bash. If Jack Hyles or David Cloud had come out with PDL they would be praising it saying it was the greatest thing ever... [​IMG]
     
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  14. tinytim

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    Debate is fine, as long as it doesn't get personal. We can debate the book all you want. But if you want to debate Rick, go to the thread mentioned above.

    I don't mind negative things.

    It may even challenge me a bit.
    Linda, can you tell me how the gospel was wishy washy. From Rick's sermon tonight it wasn't.
     
    #14 tinytim, Jan 15, 2006
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    What is the source of your information?

    Lee Strobel is on staff at Saddleback. He has written:

    * The Case for a Creator: A Journalist Investigates Scientific Evidence That Points Toward God by Lee Strobel

    * The Case for Faith: A Journalist Investigates the Toughest Objections to Christianity by Lee Strobel

    * The Case for Easter: Journalist Investigates the Evidence for the Resurrection by Lee Strobel

    * The Case for Christ: A Journalist's Personal Investigation of the Evidence for Jesus by Lee Strobel

    * What Jesus Would Say by Lee Strobel

    * God's Outrageous Claims by Lee Strobel

    * Inside the Mind of Unchurched Harry and Mary by Lee Strobel

    * The Case for Christmas : A Journalist Investigates the Identity of the Child in the Manger (Strobel, Lee) by Lee Strobel

    * Surviving a Spiritual Mismatch in Marriage by Lee Strobel, Ms. Leslie Strobel
     
    #15 gb93433, Jan 15, 2006
  16. tinytim

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    I didn't know Lee Strobel was with saddleback.

    Wow another good fellow there.
     
    #16 tinytim, Jan 15, 2006
  17. TaterTot

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    I will admit, TinyTim, it wasnt as potent for me as the Purpose Driven Church. (thats when I saw the simulcast) When I read the 5 purposes, I instictively applied them to life. Our ladies group went thru PDL, but I am already teaching during the time they meet. (there are boys in my class! :eek: ) I admit, i didnt finish reading it. Skimmed it though. I thought the PDChurch and PD Youth ministry were much better. But thats just a girl's opinion. [​IMG]
     
    #17 TaterTot, Jan 15, 2006
  18. tinytim

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    I'm not really talking about just reading the book, but doing the whole 40 days campaign.

    From Sermons on Sunday, to small groups, to daily devotions, to finding your SHAPE, to getting linked into a ministry oppurtunity, to Sunday School lessons, Youth lessons, you know the whole experience.

    Is there something about doing the whole thing vs just reading the book that makes it better.

    I liked the PDYouth also. But my youth team used to get so aggravated because everytime they had an Idea I would ask, "now does that fit into Worship, Evangelism, Fellowship, Ministry, or Missions? And who are we trying to reach, the core kids or the community kids?"

    After some of their looks I backed off. lol
     
    #18 tinytim, Jan 15, 2006
  19. TaterTot

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    I understand exactly, TinyTim. Everytime I plan a youth event, I try to ask myself (before my husband asks) "What is the purpose behind this event?" It has been great for me to do that. And honestly, it has been much easier to apply that to youth ministry than to everyday life.
     
    #19 TaterTot, Jan 15, 2006
  20. tinytim

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    I am in the process of submitting my youth plans for the coming year to my team. And beside each event, I list what the purpose is for that event.

    How has it been easier for you to apply that to youth ministry than to everyday life?

    I'm not for sure what you mean there.
     
    #20 tinytim, Jan 15, 2006
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