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Perfect Redemption

KenH

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PERFECT REDEMPTION

The death of Christ is lacking nothing for the redemption of the elect, so your acceptance or input is neither sought, nor needed. Christ accomplished salvation by Himself and perfectly and eternally satisfied God's justice in the stead of everyone He represented. "It is finished. " (John 19:30)

Nicodemus was never told to "give your heart to Jesus", or " Make Jesus your Lord". He was told, "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. " (John 3:3)

Christ's obedience unto death demands life for every single person He represented, for God can never condemn the righteousness of Christ. Likewise those who are viewed in Him and charged with His righteousness can never be condemned, for doing so would be a condemnation of Christ and His work.

To seek to add to, embellish, or participate with this righteousness in any way, is an affront to that which is eternally perfect. To say, He did his part, now you must do your part reveals a very low view of Christ's person and redemptive work and is in fact, antichrist.

The child of God rests in a righteousness he could never produce, nor maintain, knowing that he is now and eternally, accepted in the beloved. This is the song that Solomon sang and the green pastures that David was made to lie down in, in Psalm 23. This is a glorious and gracious place of rest, where the child of God is eternally free from all condemnation and an heir of all things in Christ Jesus our Lord.

John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

- written by Kenny Dyess, via his Facebook page
 

37818

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. . . "It is finished. " (John 19:30)
Jesus had completed this before John 19:28, . . . Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, . . .

The word translated "were accomplished" is the very same word Jesus had spoken, being translated "It is finished."
 

KenH

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Jesus had completed this before John 19:28, . . . Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, . . .

"Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished; or just upon being accomplished, were as good as finished; and as they were to be, would be in a very short time; even all things relating to his sufferings, and the circumstances of them, which were afore appointed by God, and foretold in prophecy, and of which he had perfect knowledge."

- excerpt from John Gill's Bible commentary on John 19:28
 

KenH

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The word translated "were accomplished" is the very same word Jesus had spoken, being translated "It is finished."

"he said, it is finished; that is, the whole will of God; as that he should be incarnate, be exposed to shame and reproach, and suffer much, and die; the whole work his Father gave him to do, which was to preach the Gospel, work miracles, and obtain eternal salvation for his people, all which were now done, or as good as done; the whole righteousness of the law was fulfilled, an holy nature assumed, perfect obedience yielded to it, and the penalty of death endured; hence a perfect righteousness was finished agreeably to the law, which was magnified and made honourable by it, and redemption from its curse and condemnation secured; sin was made an end of, full atonement and satisfaction for it were given; complete pardon procured, peace made, and redemption from all iniquity obtained; all enemies were conquered; all types, promises, and prophecies were fulfilled, and his own course of life ended: the reason of his saying so was, because all this was near being done, just upon finishing, and was as good as done; and was sure and certain, and so complete, that nothing need, or could be added to it; and it was done entirely without the help of man, and cannot be undone; all which since has more clearly appeared by Christ's resurrection from the dead, his entrance into heaven, his session at God's right hand, the declaration of the Gospel, and the application of salvation to particular persons."

- excerpt from John Gill's Bible commentary on John 19:30
 

37818

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"Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished; or just upon being accomplished, were as good as finished; and as they were to be, would be in a very short time; even all things relating to his sufferings, and the circumstances of them, which were afore appointed by God, and foretold in prophecy, and of which he had perfect knowledge."

- excerpt from John Gill's Bible commentary on John 19:28
John Gill didn't believe it was already finished then.
". . . were as good as finished; . . ." False, it was finished.
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KenH

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False, it was finished.

You are incorrect. John Gill is correct.

At the point of John 19:28, Psalm 69:21 had not yet been fulfilled, Christ had not died yet, Christ had not been buried yet, Christ had not arose from the dead yet, Christ had not ascended back to His Father yet.

So why could John write, "Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished."? "So why could Christ say, "It is finished."?

The answer is in the Bible: Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure. (Isaiah 46:9-10)

Also, in Romans 4:17, the Scripture states: God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
 

percho

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John Gill didn't believe it was already finished then.
". . . were as good as finished; . . ." False, it was finished.
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Matt 27:46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Is that verse found in John 19? However Jesus did say that while he was on the cross. Therefore, dovetail that saying of Jesus into John 19.

Where do you think it fits in John's narrative of the crucifixion ?

Romans 8:3 for what the law was not able to do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God, His own Son having sent in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, did condemn the sin in the flesh,

God, did condemn the sin in the flesh.

When do you believe condemnation of sin took place in the flesh of Jesus?
What did Jesus do, because of our sins? Hint 1 Cor 15:3

What is the result of sin, when it [sin] is finished?
James 1:15 YLT afterward the desire having conceived, doth give birth to sin, and the sin having been perfected [finished], doth bring forth death.



did Jesus know all things were accomplished when said, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Is that when sin was condemned in the flesh? Then he died because of our sins?
 
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