Plain, Simple, Un-adulterated Easy to Understand Truth

1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2. He was in the beginning with God.
3. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
4. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
5. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
6. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7. This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe.
8. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9. That was the true Light which gives light to every man who comes into the world.
At or upon the last day when all Calvinist are passed from this life you will face God and this verse will be there as your judge.

 

Flip a coin and see if you are one of the elect. While you are at it flip one for each person in your family. Just maybe they too are PICKED to miss Hell.

Mom and Dad (one taken one left)

Two Children ( both damned to hell and don’t have a smidgen of a hope for heaven )

Hard nosed dad teaches that God is just, fair, kind, no respecter of persons, loves all equally etc. then turns to John and Janice their kids and tells them, “Now kids you know that you may or may not be elect. If you are you go to heave and if you are not you go to hell” Now my dear ones that we love you as parents. We must tell you the truth. You will always be our children but I am not sure you are God’s. I can’t pray for your salvation because I don’t know if you are elect or not. You will know when the time comes. If you are not elect them you deserve Hell anyway so don’t get mad at God or us for bring you into the world. Always remember this is the Calvinist doctrine of Grace.

You know I have taught you that the other church over there teaches the Grace of God from the Bible we teach the doctrine of Grace by our teacher and other form the TULIP philosophy.

So dear ones don’t let this great Calvinistic teaching drive crazy. Accept your fate and life a productive life for this is God’s will regardless of your state “lost or elect”. Isn’t God wonderful. He desire you to be saved but only saved maybe both or many not either of you. See how great his desire is?

Always know that we love you even if you have to go to Hell. Now give me a hug and go to sleep my dear ones.

Your Calvinist Mom and Dan

Honey, Yes dear, I am not sure I am Elect. Don’t worry my dear God is in control either way. Just accept your fate. Let me have a hug and kiss.

 

So True, All on the basis of Foreknowledge. Can't get around it, under it, over it. We are elect on the basis of Foreknowledge. Elect in Christ from the foundation of the world, before Adam and Eve sinned God knew that and provided for us and he knew we would be trust in Him and declared in Eternity our Election and appointed us to heaven based upon His Absolute knowledge. God is the only one who has this Absolute Knowledge which we call foreknowledge and Yes I am appointed to heaven from eternity and I believe in the now or the past now.

Feel free to join the truth at any time. Calvinism is a dead end of despair and fear.

 

It is interesting that you dismiss a "plan" when the "plan" is not Calvinistic. All workings of God is planned, intentional according to His design. I think we both believe that. The difference is not that a plan exist but the "nuts and bolts" of the plan. There in is the difference.

Our free will is God's will. Our receiving Christ is God's desire / will / free will. No one is forced into heaven as Calvin would have it and many who follow his philosophy.

Calvinism ties God's hands with fatalism.

God is free to design his plan and operate it His way. He does not need Calvin to change it or modify it.

For God so loved the World. The context supports all man kind not the elect.

Verse 9 is clear.

Peter nailed the Calvinist philosophy to the wall before it was invented by false teaches of the likes of John Calvin. Election is based upon "foreknowledge". I go with what the Bible teaches not John Calvin.

All John Calvin is to Calvinist is a Pope. No difference. Calvinist worship Calvin as Catholics do the Pope.

You see we know what God’s desire is: Not willing that any perish. So to say that God is a respecter of persons and only picks some of the many makes God lie. The God I serve does not lie. The only way to understand Salvation is from the stand point of God’s desire, Man’s free will, and the plan of God whereby all who believe are in Christ from eternity before they commit a single sin and before they exist. On this basis God can and does declare me and you if you are a real born again believer - appointed to heaven before we believe. All who were appointed to heaven believe. That is so true.

When you Calvinist stop injecting philosophy into the Bible and let the Bible interpret itself then and only then will you see the truth.

I praise God for your salvation and deliverance. May God bless you abundantly and deliver you from the clutches of Calvinism.

 

The supposition of knowing as you would have it after the fact is of course a diversion from the knowable truth.

We are not in darkness:

(1) God's desire is that all be saved
(2) Election is on the basis of Foreknowledge
(3) God's plan declares us Elect or appointed in Christ before the foundation of the world.
(4) In time and space we still have to believe freely. God knows this before we are born and declares it as settled in Christ before the foundation of the world.

Note this: Regardless of the side you or I land on. God knows all who are ultimately saved.

Your side makes a person get saved
My side calls a person to salvation and leaves the decision up to the individual.

In God's plan, His absolute knowledge (foreknowledge, foresight, pre-science) knows all that will respond to his revelation thereby declaring them appointed and Elect. These will believe not because they are picked but because as Peter stated on the bases of God's Foreknowledge.

A Call to Prayer
1. First of all, then, I urge that entreaties {and} prayers, petitions {and} thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men,
2. for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
3. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4. who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
5. For there is one God, {and} one mediator also between God and men, {the} man Christ Jesus,
6. who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony {given} at the proper time.


God is not a Calvinist, Jesus is not a Calvinist , He is not a Catholic either.

A God who desires all men to be saved is not one that picks a few from the many and then tells the ones he did not pick, "Yo, you over there, yah, you dude, you ain’t picked but I desire you to be saved. Sorry bro my desire is real but I ain’t going to pick you just that other Joe with you." By the way I am a loving God I just thought you needed to know that." I had it put in the Bible that I love all man kind but I really only pick a few here and there. You know what??? I just lost my holiness. I can't lie. You know what on second thought you ain’t picked. Ifin you want to be saved you gota believe. OK God I believe. What about you Joe. No, I might have to give up what I am doing, don’t want to do that, I'll just take my chanches.