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Prayer In Jesus' Name

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  1. Martin

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    First Prayer In Congress' September 7th Carpenters' Hall, Philadelphia


    First Prayer in Congress

    Rev. Jacob Duche

    September 7, 1774

    O - Lord our Heavenly Father, high and mighty King of kings, and Lord of lords, who dost from thy throne behold all the dwellers on earth and reignest with power supreme and uncontolled over all the Kingdoms, Empires and Governments; look down in mercy, we beseech thee, on these our American States, who have fled to thee from the rod of the oppressor and thrown themselves on Thy gracious protection, desiring to be henceforth dependent only on Thee, to Thee have they appealed for the righteousness of their cause; to Thee do they now look up for that countenance and support, which Thou alone canst give; take them, therefore, Heavenly Father, under Thy nurturing care; give them wisdom in Council and valor in the field; defeat the malicious designs of our cruel adversaries; convince them of the unrighteousness of their Cause and if they persist in their sanguinary purposes, of own unerring justice, sounding in their hearts, constrain them to drop the weapons of war from their unnerved bands in the day of battle!

    Be Thou present, O God of wisdom, and direct the councils of this honroable assembly; enable them to settle things on the best and surest foundation. That the scene of blood may be speedily closed; that order, harmony and peace may be effectually restored, and truth and justice, religion and piety, prevail and flourish amongst The people. Preserve the health of their bodies and vigor of their minds; shower down on them and the millions they here represent, such temporal blessings as Thou seest expedient for them in this world and crown them with everlasting glory in the world to come. All this we ask In the name and through the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son and our Savior.


    Amen


    Let those in the ACLU (etc) note how this prayer was closed...In Jesus' Name!

    To say that the founders would have not allowed someone to pray "In Jesus' Name" at a federal events (inauguration, etc) is unhistorical and false.

    In Christ,
    Martin.
     
    #1 Martin, Feb 25, 2006
  2. billwald

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    But it has been made into a mantra. God will refuse to hear prayers unless they have the proper format.
     
    #2 billwald, Feb 25, 2006
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    Thanks for posting this, Martin. [​IMG]
     
    #3 LadyEagle, Feb 25, 2006
  4. freedom's cause

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    support bill H.R.4776 introduced by our man Mike Sodrel let it not be said that indiana didn't take a stand to protect the christian cause and stand up for our God given rights America was and should always be a Christian Nation radical judges should be stopped once and for all let it begin here in Jesus the Christ's Holy Name and may He get all the glory

    contact:
    Michael Sodrel 9th district Indiana
    Washington Office
    1508 Longworth House Office Building
    Phone 202 226 6866
     
    #4 freedom's cause, Feb 27, 2006
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    I can understand why the government might not want to appear to endorse a particular religion through a prayer, but to limit a legislator from referring to something in the course of debate is absurd and, IMO, blatantly unconstitutional.

    I have a feeling that the case will be overturned, though.
     
    #5 StefanM, Feb 27, 2006
  6. freedom's cause

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    support this bill contact congressman Sodrel

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    To amend title 28, United States Code, with respect to the jurisdiction of Federal courts over certain cases and controversies involving the content of speech occurring during sessions... (Introduced in House)

    HR 4776 IH


    109th CONGRESS

    2d Session

    H. R. 4776
    To amend title 28, United States Code, with respect to the jurisdiction of Federal courts over certain cases and controversies involving the content of speech occurring during sessions of State legislative bodies, and for other purposes.


    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    February 16, 2006
    Mr. SODREL (for himself, Mr. BURTON of Indiana, Mr. BUYER, Mr. HOSTETTLER, Mr. SOUDER, Mr. PENCE, Mr. MCHENRY, Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina, Mr. KING of Iowa, Mr. GOODE, Mr. WELDON of Florida, Mr. FEENEY, Mr. GARRETT of New Jersey, Mr. ISSA, Mr. JINDAL, Mr. KUHL of New York, Mr. AKIN, Mrs. MYRICK, Mr. SHADEGG, Mrs. MUSGRAVE, Mr. PITTS, Mr. POE, Mr. CULBERSON, Mr. HENSARLING, Ms. FOXX, Mr. CONAWAY, Mr. GOHMERT, Mr. COLE of Oklahoma, Mr. HAYWORTH, Mr. FORTENBERRY, Mrs. SCHMIDT, Mrs. DRAKE, Mr. LEWIS of Kentucky, and Mr. PAUL) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


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    A BILL
    To amend title 28, United States Code, with respect to the jurisdiction of Federal courts over certain cases and controversies involving the content of speech occurring during sessions of State legislative bodies, and for other purposes.


    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. LIMITATION ON JURISDICTION.

    (a) In General- Chapter 99 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

    `Sec. 1632. Limitation on jurisdiction

    `No court created by Act of Congress shall have any jurisdiction, and the Supreme Court shall have no appellate jurisdiction, to hear or decide any question pertaining to the interpretation or the validity, under the Constitution, of the content of speech of any member of a State legislative body or any individual invited by a State legislative body to speak before that body, when such speech occurs during the legislative session of that body.'.

    (b) Clerical Amendment- The table of sections at the beginning of chapter 99 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new item:

    `1632. Limitation on jurisdiction.'.

    SEC. 2. QUALIFIED IMMUNITY.

    Any person who is a member of a State legislative body, or who is invited by a State legislative body to speak before that body, other than as a witness, shall be immune from suit in any Federal court, and shall not be held liable under any law of the United States, on account of the content of speech occurring during the legislative session of that body, unless such speech constitutes treason, breach of peace, or an admission of guilt of a crime.

    SEC. 3. USE OF FEDERAL FUNDS.

    No Federal funds shall be used for the purpose of enforcing any court order relating to the content of speech occurring during the legislative session of a State legislative body, unless such speech constitutes treason, breach of peace, or an admission of guilt of a crime.

    SEC. 4. PROHIBITION OF FINES.

    No Federal court shall impose a fine on any State, State legislative body, member of a State legislative body, or individual invited by a State legislative body to speak before that body, other than as a witness, on account of the content of speech occurring during the legislative session of that body, unless such speech constitutes treason, breach of peace, or an admission of guilt of a crime.

    SEC. 5. LIMITATION ON STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION.

    No provision of this Act, including any amendment made by this Act, shall be construed--

    (1) to supersede any State law or any rule of a State legislative body; or

    (2) to limit the protections provided by any other provision of this Act.

    SEC. 6. SEVERABILITY.

    If any provision of this Act (including any amendment made by this Act), or any application thereof, is found unconstitutional, that finding shall not affect any provision or application of the Act not so adjudicated.


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  7. Dragoon68

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    Such unheard prayers - those not heard by God the Father - would include those not offered in the name of Jesus, God the Son, wouldn't they, since He - the Lord Jesus - is our only available approach to the righteousness of God?
     
    #7 Dragoon68, Feb 28, 2006
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