Featured praying = speaking to God

I have no problem with any kind of praying between you and God in private. Bible teaches that any public revelation of a communication from God must be verified by a third party.

 

Kinds of Tongues

“Kinds” is a pretty straight forward word. It refers to a classification or grouping of something. German is a kind of person, based on nationality. It is also a language or type of food as those relate to the culture of the people of that nation. A black lab would be an example of a kind of dog. “Tongues” refers to a known intelligible language. In the case of the spiritual gift it is the Holy Spirit enabling a person to speak in a language that is totally foreign to them. An example can be found on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:4, 11).

Kinds
G1085
γένος
genos
ghen'-os
From G1096; “kin” (abstractly or concretely, literally or figuratively, individually or collectively): - born, country (-man), diversity, generation, kind (-red), nation, offspring, stock.

Found in:
Mat. 13:47; 17:21
Mark 7:26; 9:29
Acts 4:6,36; 7:13,19; 13:26; 18:2,24
1Co. 12:10,28; 14:10
2Co. 11:26
Gal. 1:14
Php. 3:5
1Pe. 2:9
Rev. 22:16;


Tongues
G1100
γλῶσσα
glōssa
gloce'-sah
Of uncertain affinity; the tongue; by implication a language (specifically one naturally unacquired): - tongue.

Found in:
Mark 7:33,35; 16:17
Luke 1:64; 16:24
Acts 2:3,4,11,26; 10:46; 19:6
Rom. 3:13; 14:11
1Co. 12:10,28,30; 13:1,8; 14:2,4,5,6,9,13,14,18,19,22,23,26,27,39
Php. 2:11; Jas. 1:26; 3:5,6,8
1Pe. 3:10
1Jn. 3:18
Rev. 5:9; 7:9; 10:11; 11:9; 13:7; 14:6; 16:10; 17:15;


There is no biblical support for speaking in gibberish, or praying in an unknown language.

 

The only way we can say they were speaking some non-human language is if we read into the passages something that is not supported by the text. Keep it context, brother.

 

1Cor.14:2 is a rebuke. It is given to ALL that are in the church at Corinth. It is public. Paul is addressing everyone. The language being spoken would be a language that IS understood. The word "unknown" is in italics. It is not in the Greek. It was put in there by the KJV translators because they thought it would make better sense, but it only confused things more. They spoke in languages; known languages. If you spoke in a language you would know what language it was. You would simply not have studied it previously to speaking it. But once you speak it you know what you are speaking. Don't be fooled by all this satanic jibberish. Languages are real and known. That is what was spoken. If you were there you would recognize the language spoken. That was the purpose--edification. If it wouldn't edify, then don't speak it--whether at home or in the church.

Paul said if there is no understanding in the church don't speak (in tongues.)

God said "thou shalt not murder" (in church).
But its ok to murder at home, right?
If it is wrong in church it is still wrong at home--in both cases.

 

In all my years of experience with tongue-talkers, I have only heard one person speak in what I considered another language, and that was my sister, whom I know and trust. Every other tongue-talking I have ever heard was nothing more than gibberish and babbling, something like my young granddaughter would do.

I once heard a speaker trying to lead a woman to tongue-talk by getting her to start saying, "da da da da", to loosen up her tongue and yield it to the Holy Spirit. Sorry, but the HS does not need priming, like the way you would prime a pump! All of this is just so much bull and vainglory!

Having said that, I am not judging your experience; after all, I do not know you.

 

You are robbing and distorting the concept of "in the Spirit" from what it really means. This is not a Post-Pentecost concept but a concept applicable in all ages to all saints. One either operates "in the flesh" and thus "after the flesh" or they operate "in the Spirit." This has to do with ones "walk":


"If we LIVE in the Spirit let us ALSO WALK in the Spirit" - Gal. 5;25


Whether, it is speaking (prayer, preaching, singing, talking, etc.) or what we do with our bodies, whatever we do should be done to the glory of God and the ONLY way that can be done, the only way possible is to do what we do "in the Spirit."

Second, when Paul spoke of praying in tongues he did so in the context of its Biblical design (1 Cor. 14:17-22). You cannot claim that speaking in tongues inclusive of praying in tongues is not immediately being considered in 1 Cor. 14:17-22. Paul is correcting their use of tongues not commending them and in this correction he provides the Bibical design for tongues, praying in tongues and any other vocalization of tongues.

It's spiritual mature and Biblical design is a "sign" to a special class of lost people who are very learned in the scriptures - the Jews. This is why Paul will not use it in the congregation. This is why he places such restrictions upon it in the congregation.

Third, tongues CEASE before the gifts of prophecy and knowledge cease (1 Cor. 13:8-10. So you can claim that prophecy and knowledge cease with the coming of Christ if you like (I don't think so) but tongues cease PRIOR to that simply because God's design for them is accomplished. Paul gives no other Biblical purpose for tongues other than a "sign" TO THIS PEOPLE who are in Jerusalem - the Jews. He does not say tongues are to help your prayer life or signing in tongues is to help your singing life or any other manner of vocalization of tongues is for your own benefit.

 

Why stop at verse 4?? You are assuming the tongue speaking began instantly while they were secluded rather than in verses 5-7 where others did hear them and reported what they heard. He is listing a series of events but does not say the tongue speaking occurred within the room - that is your assumption.

Furthermore, the text does not say they were speaking to or praising God but rather what others heard was about "the wonderful works of God."

You have carefully selected a translation of 1 Cor. 14:16 to fit your subjective bias. Paul concern is how can the hearer say "Amen" which means a prayer or asking God for a blessing is in view rather than a personal praise worship service going on between the speaker and God. You arbritrarily insist the tongue speaker is praising God rather than intercessary or supplicational prayer is occurring. You have no basis to make that distinction.

 

Here is the crux of your error. The Bible flatly denies that tongues is available for ALL Christians then or now - 1 Cor. 12:29-30.

The Holy Spirit soverengly bestows tongues on whom He willls (1 Cor. 12:11) and that statement makes no sense if all these gifts were available to all Christians as you cannot arbritrarily select one of the gifts out of all those listed in 1 Cor. 12:29 or 1 Cor. 12:7-11 and claim it is available to all while the others are not.

14 ¶ Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen......
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 ¶ So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

Heb. 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

In both of the above passages it is the ones who actually heard Christ that are in view not you or me or Christians in general yet future.

Second, in both cases it is spoken of in the PAST TENSE completed action as already fulfilled.

Third, in both cases the purpose of sign gifts is clearly stated as confirmation, bearing witness to the word THEY spoke not what WE speak. Take note that the writer of Hebews does not include Himself or the Hebrew Christians in this miraculous confirming work.

 

This is a drive-by post, because y'all are doing just fine without me.

My question is, if you pray in tongues, or your private prayer language, do you ever wonder what you just said?