Pre-Mil Fallacy

[kyredneck]

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That sounds like post millennialism.

Wow, such deep thoughts....

 

[Dave G]

We have already come unto mount Zion, and are living in the New Jerusalem. Hebrews 12:18, 22 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, ... But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels.

Respectfully,
You might wish to show me where that New Jerusalem that's come down from Heaven is:

" And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." ( Revelation 21:1-4 )

If we're living in it, then where is this city?
It's described in Revelation 21:10-21.

I've not seen it ( or the Lord Jesus face to face ) yet, but one day I hope to.

 

[Dave G]

Just waiting for one of you to make some definitive doctrinal statement about a premillennial reading of Revelation 20, instead of the general shock and awe and vague allusions to flavors of Premillennialism.

I take Revelation 20:1-15 literally.
It fits into the framework of Matthew 24 and Mark 13, right at the end.

That is why I am not A-millennial.

Again, we've already entered the New Jerusalem.

I disagree.
If we as believers had already entered it, then this would be true:

" And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb [is] the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither [whatsoever] worketh abomination, or [maketh] a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life." ( Revelation 21:22-27 ).

There would be no sin nor sinners around us except those who are redeemed.
Instead, we're on an internet forum in a world filled with sin and sinners and it's getting worse every day...and discussing why some believe what is written on the page, while others do not, it seems.

 

[Alan Gross]

All man made illustrations of a private interpretation.

100% off. You missed it. All Scriptures confirm this approach.

 

[Salty]

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