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Yeah . . . I'm talking about vaccines. You aren't.I'd stick with the mRNA vaccines so far. They also do not rely on aborted fetuses and are not gene therapy (I don't know if any covid vaccine that is gene therapy....and given that they are mRNA vaccines I doubt any use aborted fetuses in production).
I agree there are vaccines that use cell lines (not aborted fetuses, but cell lines that came from a fetuses aborted 50 years ago). These include the rabies vaccines and the Measles Mumps Rubella (MMR) vaccines (the Rubella component).Yeah . . . I'm talking about vaccines. You aren't.
The proponents of the MRNA vax were the first to call it "gene therapy" because "the technology is so much more than a simple vaccine".I'd stick with the mRNA vaccines so far. They also do not rely on aborted fetuses and are not gene therapy (I don't know if any covid vaccine that is gene therapy....and given that they are mRNA vaccines I doubt any use aborted fetuses in production).
You hit is right...the "evidence" posted on "this board".Stahhhp, Jon. The overwhelming data posted on this board contrary to your constant toeing the party line would be enough to open Helen Keller's eyes.
We're all just wondering when the mistake will be acknowledged and corrected.
Some proponents, maybe. But they were wrong (of course). If pro-vax people called a dog's tail a leg, that wouldn't make your conclusion a dog has 5 legs correct.The proponents of the MRNA vax were the first to call it "gene therapy" because "the technology is so much more than a simple vaccine".
Okay, who fooled Jon by changed the definition of "simple"? Speak up, you're going to the principal's office!The mRNA vaccine is actually a very simple vaccice (probably simpler than traditional vaccines).
What part is overly complicated to you? (Keeping in mind you were under the confusion mRNA vaccines utilized aborted fetuses I suppose it would be complicated to you)Okay, who fooled Jon by changed the definition of "simple"? Speak up, you're going to the principal's office!
MRNA vaccines Did "utilize" aborted fetuses.What part is overly complicated to you? (Keeping in mind you were under the confusion mRNA vaccines utilized aborted fetuses I suppose it would be complicated to you)
What's a simpler process? introducing weakened or dead pathogens as an antigen? Or programming one's own cells to be become the antigen-maker?What part is overly complicated to you?
LOL. I know discussion to which you refer. Would you care to link to the actual statement, because, you know, you want to be known as Honest Jon.(Keeping in mind you were under the confusion mRNA vaccines utilized aborted fetuses I suppose it would be complicated to you)
Simpler because making the actual mRNA is simple. The hard part was delivery.What's a simpler process? introducing weakened or dead pathogens as an antigen? Or programming one's own cells to be become the antigen-maker?
Still not sure the long term effects of this one, and yet despite the insane number of adverse reactions, permanent disabilities and deaths many thousands times the number that would shut any other program down, you will say they're 'safe and effective."
(I know, I know no one understands VAERS like you do, despite the fact that adverse reactions are under reported, and for about 85% of the reports there can be no other cause than the vaccinne)
LOL. I know discussion to which you refer. Would you care to link to the actual statement, because, you know, you want to be known as Honest Jon.
assuming you're basically healthy and less than 75 ... you have a FARRRRR better chance of surviving covid19 than 99%.I have a 1% chance of dying from covid.
The vaccination carries a .00015% chance of serious side-effects. This is a fact. That said, we do not know the long-term effects of covid or long term effects involving vaccines. There could be some. There may be no long term effects.assuming you're basically healthy and less than 75 ... you have a FARRRRR better chance of surviving covid19 than 99%.
The jab ... well ... the jury remains out primarily because the data is less than conclusive so as to keep it clouded. I recognize that goes all conspiracy theory ... but may I remind readers ...
in May '20, it was kook conspiracy theory the origin of the SARSCov2 virus was the wuhan virology lab ... there was no other possible origin than the wet market down the street.
And I'll be dipped ... what do we know today, and have known generally for at least 6 months? ... (btw, our military intel folks knew no later than April '20 this very fact.)
that is a statement by those who benefit from the cv jab appearing to be safe.The vaccination carries a .00015% chance of serious side-effects. This is a fact.
Do you believe the polio vaccine is a vaccine?
See....ain't this fun.that is a statement by those who benefit from the cv jab appearing to be safe.
the lot number breakout finds a different set of facts for 5% of the lots ... THOUSANDS of bad juju expereinces. FAR FAR FAR so far I can't even count the logarithmic increase in adverse effects over previous injected drugs which were pulled before the cv jab rates.
what I believe is irrelevant.
and ... for a guy who doesnt' care, you sure do post on this a LOT ... almost as much as there are reports of adverse effects from the cv jabs