I have come across a teaching now while traveling in the south or studying from school’s in the south and they keep saying the Bible teaches Racial Segregation when it comes to marriage! Where in the Bible does it teach Racial segregation for marriage? I understand we are not to be unequally yoked believer with unbeliever but if Eve is the Mother of all living as Gen. tells us how come now we are not to intermarry because of color? Where in the Bible does it teach it is sin for a white man or women to marry a colored man or woman ?? :BangHead:
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Racial segregation
- Thread starter Mickes
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sigh.......this is nothing more than stereotype. Why don't you site some specific sources so as to have some actual credibility. Coming from Maine and listing no actual sources it appears you are just perpetuating northern stereotypes that have no actual basis. I will be waiting for your specific sources.
Add to that the framing of this question makes it clear you are really looking to bash southerners. :BangHead:
Add to that the framing of this question makes it clear you are really looking to bash southerners. :BangHead:
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I am not trying to bash anybody! However the only time this topic has been brought up is when I have been in the south and from friends I have in the south. That is the only reason I mention the south. I have asked Pastors and friends from around here and they do not feel the Bible teaches this. I now have come across a study I started doing with Gulf Coast Bible Institute in Florida that mentions it. When looking into there teachings they have a book on it. Dr M. H. Tab I believe is the author. I am sorry you feel the way you do about discussing things but that is how we learn from each other. I may live in Maine now but you have no idea where I am from. Also I have been informed that Bob Jones held this view and may still. The first time I heard such a thing was at and Amazing Grace Missions conference in Florida from a fellow who lived in Tennessee. All I am asking for is for someone who believes this to show how they derive it from the Bible. I am asking so I can study further and try to understand why some feel this is sinful.
Mickes said:
Anybody can believe almost anything they want to believe, and quote Scriptures to back it up, too, no matter how outlandish or bizarre it is, and there are people who will believe and even die for that teaching, as we have witnessed in the Guyana affair, and David Koresh, and the Heaven’s Gate cults, and so on.
Even steering away from obvious cults, we find the same truth among Roman Catholics who believe Mary is the Mother of God, co-Redemptrix, etc., (and I am not bashing Roman Catholicism here), or the Fred Phelps around us, or the Benny Hinns and such like.
In the Philippines, I know of a Pentecostal pastor who preaches that Pentecostals should intermarry only with Pentecostals, Baptists with Baptists, Filipinos with Filipinos.
And even the Filipinos with Filipinos thing he tries to restrict to be only those belonging to the same regional or dialect group.
He says this is obvious when God forbade intermarriage among Israel’s tribes (something which I have never found in the Bible, so if anyone knows where in the Bible this is, please educate me, and thanks in advance).
So I wouldn’t worry too much about this, friend.
Welcome to the fallen world.
And if you believe you’re a child of God and one of His own, then simply be thankful that one day you’re going to leave all these stupidities behind and will be taught in Heaven.
I have come across many Churches in the North, who seem to teach that it is perfectly biblical to be "Pro Choice" in regards to the murder of the unborn....
Such stereotypes and prejudices hurt the church in general. I have lived in the south my entire life, visited many churches, and have never been in one NOR heard of one, that believed such ridiculousness.
BTW, the only organization I could find to defend this idiotic idea, is in OHIO> decidedly NOT a southern state....
http://ucoy.org/Anglo-SaxonIsrael.html
Such stereotypes and prejudices hurt the church in general. I have lived in the south my entire life, visited many churches, and have never been in one NOR heard of one, that believed such ridiculousness.
BTW, the only organization I could find to defend this idiotic idea, is in OHIO> decidedly NOT a southern state....
http://ucoy.org/Anglo-SaxonIsrael.html
Mickes said:
Trust me...Gulf Coast Bible Institute is not representative of most Christians in the South. Very few Baptists, IMO, hold this view anymore (particularly those of a younger generation)
Secondly...most churches have gotten over this racist propaganda. We have several mixed couples in our church...several in positions of leadership. It is a non-issue here.
Thirdly, if someone asserts the Bible teaches racial segregation, they show a stunning lack of Biblical knowledge, and are likely trying to justify their own racism.
In the early days, we were taught in seminaries about the three races of peoples flowing from Noah's three sons, Ham, Shem and Japeth. Each son covered a different part of the earth and obviously points to the different races. Ham led into slavery, and just happened to be the Black race...you can take it from there, The South African Church espoused this teaching long into the 60's and 70's. Eventually they dropped the notion, but it took worldwide pressure to do it.
Thank God we are no longer taught these things in seminary and thank God we share equal rights.
I was so convinced of this "doctrine" that I worked with the Civil Rights Movement in 1960. Our job was to get the Southern Blacks to register for the vote. They had the vote, but would not register because of White pressure. If anyone denies that these things happened in the South, they are blind beyond measure. I tell you, however, segregation was just as real in the North. Now, let it be known that I love the South and I have a daughter living in Georgia, but I cannot deny the facts of life. There are still pockets of the old school there. We just don't have the protest marches and lynching that once was common, thank God. For the most part I truly believe the majority of people have changed, but this change came at a very high cost.
I could relate a lot more, but I will leave it at that and let peace prevail. Churches no longer have the Ham, Shem and Japeth doctrines in their teaching and teh Southern Baptists were among the first to drop it and even correct it.
Cheers, and God bless America and all those countries of change, including Canada, where we had segregation under cover. You might be interested to know that the first Baptist Church in York (now Toronto) was a Black Baptist Church!
Cheers,
Jim
Thank God we are no longer taught these things in seminary and thank God we share equal rights.
I was so convinced of this "doctrine" that I worked with the Civil Rights Movement in 1960. Our job was to get the Southern Blacks to register for the vote. They had the vote, but would not register because of White pressure. If anyone denies that these things happened in the South, they are blind beyond measure. I tell you, however, segregation was just as real in the North. Now, let it be known that I love the South and I have a daughter living in Georgia, but I cannot deny the facts of life. There are still pockets of the old school there. We just don't have the protest marches and lynching that once was common, thank God. For the most part I truly believe the majority of people have changed, but this change came at a very high cost.
I could relate a lot more, but I will leave it at that and let peace prevail. Churches no longer have the Ham, Shem and Japeth doctrines in their teaching and teh Southern Baptists were among the first to drop it and even correct it.
Cheers, and God bless America and all those countries of change, including Canada, where we had segregation under cover. You might be interested to know that the first Baptist Church in York (now Toronto) was a Black Baptist Church!
Cheers,
Jim
Revmitchell said:
Thank you.
I don't know any "schools" here in the South that teach that.
I don't know any Christian who believes that either.
Mickes said:
Uh huh........I'm sure you are sorry. But no one said anything about having a difficulty "discussing things". Nothing from your post shows you want to learn anything. But it does show the problem you have with southerners. Your question is based on a false stereotype that most people already know about. Maybe it is time to catch up.
I have seen churches both north and south of the Mason-Dixon line that have suggested that interracial marriage is wrong.
I have never seen anyone back it up Biblically.
Having said that, I do think it is an issue of wisdom.
I think that in general, it is not wise for a person to marry someone of a significantly different race.
After all, no one marries someone exactly as they are anymore.
But there are cases, like someone I used to know who was a foreign missionary who married a local girl who was a different race.
A lot of people did not like that. But I think you could make the case that it was wise for him.
And beyond that, it was no one else's business anyway.
it was his decision as to the wisdom of it, so even if it was unwise, it is still his decision.
I have never seen anyone back it up Biblically.
Having said that, I do think it is an issue of wisdom.
I think that in general, it is not wise for a person to marry someone of a significantly different race.
After all, no one marries someone exactly as they are anymore.
But there are cases, like someone I used to know who was a foreign missionary who married a local girl who was a different race.
A lot of people did not like that. But I think you could make the case that it was wise for him.
And beyond that, it was no one else's business anyway.
it was his decision as to the wisdom of it, so even if it was unwise, it is still his decision.
Mickes said:
That is my signature line
I only mentioned the north because such idiocies only come from them.
Gold Dragon
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The first line of stereotype and bigotry in this thread.Revmitchell said:
chuck2336
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In fairness to the poster, I have heard many older christians say that interacial relations is a sin. Very little to no scripture backing of course. In the course of my military life I have been in North Carolina, Florida, Mississippi, and Texas. In each of these states I have come across this idea from idividuals, not from churches as a whole.
In Texas though when they talk of mixed marriages they are refering to a Texan marrying someone from Oklahoma (Heaven forbid!)
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In Texas though when they talk of mixed marriages they are refering to a Texan marrying someone from Oklahoma (Heaven forbid!)
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Dale-c said:
On this I will agree, but will clarify even further. All marriages should be considered an issue of wisdom for the couple involved; however, interracial marriages are no different than other type of marriage.
I do wonder, and I am not making any insinuations, but if interracial marriages are acceptable why do you think the couple needs more wisdom than same race couples? Seems to me that you are admitting by default that these marriages have not always been acceptable, even in the church?
Gold Dragon
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Agreed. If there are difficulties from interracial marriage because of family and friends who do not accept it, the problem lies with those who cannot accept it and they are the ones who need to deal with their issues. The couple getting married needs to be aware of how it will impact their relationships with family and community and maybe it means removing themselves from people who hold to sinful views while being sensitive to the fact that those people are a product of sinful Christian cultures.Filmproducer said: