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  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    I found the following facts and observations to be of interest, and I hope they are of interest to you as well ....

    These were all a Radical form of their religion. But they were still beholding to the Muslim religion. Try telling them they are not Muslims ...

    The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
    The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
    The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
    The Underwear Bomber was a Muslim
    The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
    The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
    The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
    The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
    The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
    The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
    The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
    The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
    The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
    The Beirut U.S. Embassy Bombers were Muslims
    The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
    The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
    The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
    The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
    The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
    The Beirut Marine Barracks Bombers were Muslims
    The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
    The First World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
    The Bombay, Mumbai, India Attackers were Muslims
    The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
    The Nairobi, Kenya Shopping Mall Killers were Muslims
    The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
    The Sydney, Australia Lindt Cafe Kidnapper was a Muslim
    The Peshawar, Pakistani School Children Killers were Muslims

    Think of it:

    Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
    Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
    Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
    Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
    Christians living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
    Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
    Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
    Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
    Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem

    But:

    Muslims living with Jews = Problem
    Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
    Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
    Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
    Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
    Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
    Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
    Muslims living with Christians = Problem
    MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = VERY BIG PROBLEM

    So this leads us to believe this about Muslims:

    They’re not happy in Gaza
    They're not happy in Egypt
    They're not happy in Libya
    They're not happy in Iran
    They're not happy in Iraq
    They're not happy in Yemen
    They're not happy in Pakistan
    They're not happy in Syria
    They're not happy in Lebanon
    They're not happy in Nigeria
    They're not happy in Kenya
    They're not happy in Sudan
    They're not happy in Morocco
    They're not happy in Afghanistan

    So, where are they happy?

    They're happy in Australia
    They're happy in Belgium
    They're happy in France
    They're happy in Holland
    They're happy in Italy
    They're happy in Germany
    They're happy in Spain
    They're happy in Sweden
    They're happy in Denmark
    They're happy in the USA & Canada
    They're happy in Norway & India
    They're very happy in England (UK) (Loads of Welfare Benefits). They're unhappy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves ... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!! And they want to change the countries they're happy in, the want to establish Sharia Law and if possible, Caliphates, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy. Does this make sense to you?

    AND EVERYONE AROUND OUR WORLD SEEMS TO GET IT, EXCEPT FOR SOME VERY STUPID, PEOPLE ... LIKE THE ONES WHO OCCUPY THE WHITE HOUSE ... AND IT IS THIS GROUP OF POLITICIANS WHO WORK DAY AND NIGHT AND WEEKENDS TOO, TO WHITEWASH EVERYTHING TO DO WITH MUSLIMS! And they do this to make the public, as a whole, more open to and receptive of the teachings and ideals of Islam. And why do they do this, well, you be the judge? :BangHead:

    This does not mean that Muslims are the problem. ~No!~ The problems with Muslims are the radicalized form of their religion.

    Nevertheless, the truth is, the radical form of their religion is larger in number than the sum of all the radicals, of all the world religions combined http://thinkprogress.org/security/2...-majority-muslims-worldwide-reject-extremism/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html http://www.clarionproject.org/understanding-islamism/islamic-extremism

    And that should be a concern for all of us who live and work together with people of all colors, ethnicity's, nationalities, social customs, religions and political ideals.    ​
     
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  2. poncho

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    So what are you going to do about it?
     
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    Salty, interesting lists, but they do not address the following question.

    How is it that Muslims and Jews lived in peace for just over 1900 years and trouble started just after World War I? What happened that started this downward spiral?

    Also not all is as peaceful as your list implies between the other religions. Granted the problems are not as large as with Muslims, but it is not a totally peaceful relationship between these other groups.

    Example:

    Straying From the Middle Way: Extremist Buddhist Monks Target Religious Minorities
    http://world.time.com/2013/06/20/extremist-buddhist-monks-fight-oppression-with-violence/


     
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    :thumbs: Lol, really; RD2 you've presented the problem now give us your solution.
     
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    Well, it has it's roots with the Balfour Declaration of 1917, but began in earnest in 1948 with the Zionist genocidal expulsion of the native Palestinian population. Christian Zionists (supposedly evangelicals) may refuse to accept or forget that fact but the Arab Muslim world hasn't and probably never will.
     
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    The OP is a sample of what most white, evangelical Americans perceive.

    In fact, it is not tied to reality. If anything moderate Islam is on the rise across the globe and fundamentalist, militant forms are on the decline. We know this through the polling that takes place and other points of research. Militant Muslisms are ultimately marginalizing themselves and pushing more moderate voices to the forefront of the Islamic sects.
     
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    Thank you for that very informative post pj. :thumbs:
     
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  8. poncho

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    I don't know what RD2 will do about it if anything but I do know what Washington, the courts, the DHS, the TSA, the FBI, state and local police departments are doing about it.

    Removing our constitutional protections and treating all Americans as criminals and gearing up for war against us.
     
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    You are absolutely correct. Since that time the Arabs and Arab countries have not trusted any western nation. They have good reason for this distrust. We have done nothing to change this distrust. The Balfour Declaration and other decisions made at the end of WW I set up many of the problems we have with us today.
     
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    Islam is a religion of death. That is how they became dominant, convert or die!
     
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    An example of the peace loving Muslims:

    Turkey is once again moving toward the radical Islamist movement.
     
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    The problem OldR is as with many issues the press only publishes the sensational, the tragic, the bad. The Muslims who are working for peace, who speak out against the radicals are seldom given publicity in the press. You know the old saw, "Good news does not sell newspapers". We could add to that the good news does not draw viewers to news programs.

    You remember the bad old days in Northern Ireland. Those working for peace never made the news. But the terrorists on both sides, the murderers, the torturers made the news.

     
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    That is a lie. Very few of them are saying anything. The reason is most Muslims support the terrorism even of they are not willing to engage in it themselves.
     
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    There is absolutely nothing to support such an uninformed statement. Not a thing. If you had ever spent anytime in a middle eastern country you would be embarrassed to say something like that. Those people hate terrorism more than you could possibly imagine. It has turned their lives upside down and there are people scrambling to survive in war torn countries. Those that denounce terrorism aren't being given a platform to voice these opinions for obvious reasons. You have tried before to parrot the narrative that no one is speaking out when it is quite easy to find examples of this if you actually put your preconceived perceptions aside and attempted to search for the information instead of canned articles that feed your own myopic world view.

    For someone that slings the word "operative" around on the regular, you always seem determined to steer the conversation.

    Here let me help you. Oh wow, the amazing internet search engine called "google" gave me this with about 3 seconds of effort.

    http://muslimscondemningthings.tumblr.com/

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...ont-more-moderate-muslims-denounce-extremism/

    Watch who you accuse of lying pastor. You haven't put forth an honest effort yourself.
     
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    There is only one Muslim in this country who speaks out against Radical Islam. He is a former Navy Commander and I believe a doctor. All the rest that appear on the News support the Radicals, particularly the Imans!
     
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    No that isn't true either.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/12/imams-denounce-isis_n_5579370.html

    It's like everyone has the internet but is scared to use it.
     
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    They're scared and are smart enough to stay silent. By doing so, they won't lose either way. Should the west defeat radical Islam, the silent Muslims go right along living status quo. If the radicals prevail, they may have to change their lifestyle to fit Sharia law, but at least they keep their heads. :thumbs:
     
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    So what do you suggest? You are the forums conspiracy nut and survivalist. I'll follow your lead. :laugh:
     
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    I was wondering--if Muslims are happy living in these western countries (and there is no possible way to know this)--why are they blowing up infrastructure and killing themselves and others?
     
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    Just taint [sic] so Old.

    http://www.freemuslims.org/

    http://muslimsagainstterror.com/

    http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/tam/categories/C167

    http://kurzman.unc.edu/islamic-statements-against-terrorism/

    Just a few other voices of Muslims against terrorism.
     
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