RealClear Politics: Aug 8 Polls

[Rolfe]

Trump leads in no polls listed.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Time for Trump to quit the race and let Pence take over.

 

[InTheLight]

All that winning. Winning, winning, winning. You're going to be so sick of all the winning.

 

[Rolfe]

Title typo. "August 4."

Ugh...

 

[Rolfe]

Actually, August 5 as well...

 

[HankD]

According to Pat Caddell the poll results are being "cooked";

They not only changed their formula, to put Hillary ahead. They went back and changed the results, for a week of results where Trump was ahead, and then they turned those into Hillary leads,” said Caddell. “They also erased all the former polling off the site. They didn’t tweak their procedure – they cooked it.

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016...-news-organization-do-something-so-dishonest/

HankD

 

[Crabtownboy]

According to Pat Caddell the poll results are being "cooked";



http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016...-news-organization-do-something-so-dishonest/

HankD

Such an objective source. What else would they say as they are anything but fair and balanced in their reporting.

 

[HankD]

Such an objective source. What else would they say as they are anything but fair and balanced in their reporting.

It was reported by more than one source : INFOWARS for instance.

Look CTB, I know both major parties use deceptive techniques to manipulate us but don't forget FOX has abandoned Trump for the most part. Also this act of deception has evidence.


HankD

 

[Rolfe]

It was reported by more than one source : INFOWARS for instance.

Infowars is about as reliable as RT.

 

[HankD]

Infowars is about as reliable as RT.

Of course. An expected response.

HankD

 

[Crabtownboy]

It was reported by more than one source : INFOWARS for instance.

Look CTB, I know both major parties use deceptive techniques to manipulate us but don't forget FOX has abandoned Trump for the most part. Also this act of deception has evidence.


HankD

What and where is the evidence?

 

[Rolfe]

Of course. An expected response.

HankD

Meaning what?

 

[HankD]

Meaning what?

Meaning just what it says - it is/was an expected response.

More reliable evidence?

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/reuters-polls-clinton/


HankD

 

[Rolfe]

Meaning just what it says - it is/was an expected response.

More reliable evidence?

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/reuters-polls-clinton/


HankD

One man says one news company manipulated a poll. That does not mean a whole election is rigged.

 

[HankD]

One man says one news company manipulated a poll. That does not mean a whole election is rigged.

Possibly.

HankD

 

[Rippon]

Facebook
Trump 135,000 likes,18,167 shares, 1,5 million views
Clinton 11,000 likes, 0 shares, 321,000 views

YouTube
Trump 30,000 per live stream viewers
Clinton 500 per live stream viewers

Reddit
Trump : 197,696
Clinton : 24,429

And in these social media outlets Trump has been blocked numerous times.Despite that he outscores Clinton easily.

Trump has 10s of thousands at his rallies and thousands have to be turned away.
Clinton is lucky to get 500 to her events.

 

[InTheLight]

Facebook
Trump 135,000 likes,18,167 shares, 1,5 million views
Clinton 11,000 likes, 0 shares, 321,000 views

YouTube
Trump 30,000 per live stream viewers
Clinton 500 per live stream viewers

Reddit
Trump : 197,696
Clinton : 24,429

And in these social media outlets Trump has been blocked numerous times.Despite that he outscores Clinton easily.

Trump has 10s of thousands at his rallies and thousands have to be turned away.
Clinton is lucky to get 500 to her events.

We did this with Romney in 2012. He had huge rallies and more social media buzz. He lost by 5 million votes.

Oh, and you forgot to count bumper stickers.

 

[InTheLight]

Facebook
Trump 135,000 likes,18,167 shares, 1,5 million views
Clinton 11,000 likes, 0 shares, 321,000 views

YouTube
Trump 30,000 per live stream viewers
Clinton 500 per live stream viewers

Reddit
Trump : 197,696
Clinton : 24,429

And in these social media outlets Trump has been blocked numerous times.Despite that he outscores Clinton easily.

Trump has 10s of thousands at his rallies and thousands have to be turned away.
Clinton is lucky to get 500 to her events.

Isn't it funny that during the primary election cycle you were the one touting the polls showing Trump leading as if they were gospel. Now that they are showing him losing, and losing badly, they're rigged. Sad.

 

[HankD]

Isn't it funny that during the primary election cycle you were the one touting the polls showing Trump leading as if they were gospel. Now that they are showing him losing, and losing badly, they're rigged. Sad.

IMO, both the RNC and the DNC manipulate statistics where and when they can to "prove" their candidate is the one who is "leading in the polls".

I took a course in statistics in college - the first day of the course the professors walked in and said "you can prove just about anything you want in a given situation with statistics and it will all be true".

It was one of the most difficult math courses I ever took including calculus (both integral and differential).
Here is a small idea of the science of statistics:

http://www.mathnstuff.com/math/spoken/here/2class/90/stat.htm

The data input, output and the calculation method impact the results.

You have to read carefully HOW the figures were calculated and the method(s) used (means, mode, median, average, range). The explanation is usually over our heads as average folks.

So it is. Be cautious with these Orwellian doublespeak figures. EITHER side.

HankD

 

[InTheLight]

IMO, both the RNC and the DNC manipulate statistics where and when they can to "prove" their candidate is the one who is "leading in the polls".

I took a course in statistics in college - the first day of the course the professors walked in and said "you can prove just about anything you want in a given situation with statistics and it will all be true".

It was one of the most difficult math courses I ever took including calculus (both integral and differential).
Here is a small idea of the science of statistics:

http://www.mathnstuff.com/math/spoken/here/2class/90/stat.htm

The data input, output and the calculation method impact the results.

You have to read carefully HOW the figures were calculated and the method(s) used (means, mode, median, average, range). The explanation is usually over our heads as average folks.

So it is. Be cautious with these Orwellian doublespeak figures. EITHER side.

HankD

FWIW, I had statistics in college along with calculus as part of my electrical engineering curriculum at the University of Minnesota. Furthermore, my wife works for a data mining company that does consumer research surveys. So, I'm all "learned-up" on surveys and their methodology.

 

[HankD]

FWIW, I had statistics in college along with calculus as part of my electrical engineering curriculum at the University of Minnesota. Furthermore, my wife works for a data mining company that does consumer research surveys. So, I'm all "learned-up" on surveys and their methodology.

It's good to know part of your background ITL.

I finally settled into a dual career :

Software engineering - San Jose/USAF
Bible Literature and language - Calvary University.

The only real poll that counts is the presidential VOTE of course and even that is considered "rigged" by some because the popular vote is not used to elect the president but the vote of the electoral college.

The popular vote can be won but the office of presidency lost.

http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/...05143744ebyessedo0.8026239.html#axzz4Gl34PLvR

HankD