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spirit1st

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Gods real children have no religion ! We can go and be a part of any religion that preaches the Cross and My LORD JESUS CHRIST! But we only belong to our LORD JESUS CHRIST forever more !
religions want to control people ! The LORD JESUS CHRIST does not ! He wants us to grow in truth and power !We all start off as babies and He dire for us to walk in HIS love and faith ! Listen we have the POWER HE revealed as He walked the Earth !
Eph_4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph_4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: It not about US ! It about HIM and what HE did for us ! Joh_14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. I do not believe I ever did greater works ? but I have done the things He said I would ! I have been used to raise the dead three times . cast our satan and other devils ! Heal the sick lots of timers ! But have prayed for some and never saw them healed ! LOTS more different miracles ! But none 100 % of the time ! I am no more than any in our LORD JESUS! Just that He has used me some ! It our New Spirit that has eternal life and the power of GOD within it ! I am just a sinner outwardly in my weak flesh ! My flesh wants to sin ! My Spirit wants to please my LORD JESUS 100% of the time ! So I am in a battle daily !
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.1Co_15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. The spiritual body is the one that is in HIM ! God is a Spirit being and father of spirit beings !Heb_12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? We control the flesh though our inward man ! We cannot ever make the flesh perfect ! It dies a sinner ! We never die ! We just go Home and receive our New Body that is like our LORD JESUS CHRISTS body !
 

spirit1st

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Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me Most go to hell because they follow pastors or popes or religions or others ! HE wants a ONE on ONE relationship Forever more ! The question is ? Are we willing to let HIM have HIS way ?
 

Martin Marprelate

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Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me Most go to hell because they follow pastors or popes or religions or others ! HE wants a ONE on ONE relationship Forever more ! The question is ? Are we willing to let HIM have HIS way ?
I'm not quite sure of the point you're trying to make, but I offer a few Scriptures:
Matthew 16:18. "I will build My church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it."
Acts 14:23. 'So when they had appointed elders in every church.........' (cf. Titus 1:5-7).
Hebrews 10:25. 'Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some.......'
Hebrews 13:17. 'Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account.'
 

MennoSota

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While we are individually adopted as children of God, we are told to not neglect meeting together (Hebrews 10:24-25).
How do we determine if we are meeting with other adopted children or with wolves, posing as sheep? What is one of the first means of sifting? For me, it is reviewing a churches doctrinal stance. A church that denies the deity of Yeshua, Jesus, is a big red flag that I won't be fellowshipping with adopted sisters and brothers.
 

Adonia

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There is nothing wrong with religion or being religious. What is the Christian religion all about? It is believing that Jesus Christ is the Master, the Savior, God Incarnated and we are to pattern ourselves after him. If this is done within the context of a religious organization where one finds instruction and worships with fellow believers, I see no problem with the context of the word "religion"..

Definition:
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
 

Calv1

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Wrong, Christianity is a Religion, "Preaching the Cross and my Lord Jesus Christ" is RELIGION. If you look throughout Church history you will find them use the word "Religion". Someone, somewhere as it always happens came up with this false idea that "Religion is man finding God, Christianity is God finding man", FALSE, yes Christianity is God finding man, but we belong to a RELIGION.

Gods real children have no religion ! We can go and be a part of any religion that preaches the Cross and My LORD JESUS CHRIST! But we only belong to our LORD JESUS CHRIST forever more !
religions want to control people ! The LORD JESUS CHRIST does not ! He wants us to grow in truth and power !We all start off as babies and He dire for us to walk in HIS love and faith ! Listen we have the POWER HE revealed as He walked the Earth !
Eph_4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph_4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: It not about US ! It about HIM and what HE did for us ! Joh_14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. I do not believe I ever did greater works ? but I have done the things He said I would ! I have been used to raise the dead three times . cast our satan and other devils ! Heal the sick lots of timers ! But have prayed for some and never saw them healed ! LOTS more different miracles ! But none 100 % of the time ! I am no more than any in our LORD JESUS! Just that He has used me some ! It our New Spirit that has eternal life and the power of GOD within it ! I am just a sinner outwardly in my weak flesh ! My flesh wants to sin ! My Spirit wants to please my LORD JESUS 100% of the time ! So I am in a battle daily !
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.1Co_15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. The spiritual body is the one that is in HIM ! God is a Spirit being and father of spirit beings !Heb_12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? We control the flesh though our inward man ! We cannot ever make the flesh perfect ! It dies a sinner ! We never die ! We just go Home and receive our New Body that is like our LORD JESUS CHRISTS body !
 

utilyan

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"spiritual but not religious" Sometimes they come in differ flavors, guy who hates organized religion and thinks he is notch wiser above everyone else. But those deep mystics will call all religions gift from God.

Bible says If your turned off by the combativeness between religions you should start with your own blast'em all solution

James 1

26If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless. 27Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.
 

shodan

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Too many ill-informed ideas come from ignoring what Elton Trueblood called "the holy conjunction." This post would have to reject nearly every hero of the faith for two thousand years, as they spoke of true religion vs. false. This new idea stems from gross illiteracy among modern Christians. The Holy Conjunction
 
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