Romans 8-11: Does it support Calvinism?

[Skandelon]

This on the other hand I would strongly disargee with. I would be happy to go into detail of Romans 8,9 and 10 if you would like to start that tread.

I'm starting the thread...

Let's begin with a simple question. When Paul says, "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy and I will hardened whom I will harden."

Who do you suppose Paul is speaking about? Who are those he shows mercy? Who are those who he hardens?

Are they individual chosen to be saved, the elect and the individual not chosen, the reprobate? Is that the way you interpret this passage?

 

[J. Jump]

Short answer...no.

 

[Blammo]

Short answer..... maybe?

I think I'll go with no. :wavey:

 

[Hope of Glory]

The Bible does not support Calvinism nor Arminianism exclusively, although certain aspects of both are supported (and certain aspects denied).

 

[Blammo]

The Bible does not support Calvinism nor Arminianism exclusively, although certain aspects of both are supported (and certain aspects denied).

Then why don't we forget Calvinism and Arminianism? How about we just get back to the Bible?

BTW, why is it that anyone who is a non-Calvinist is an Arminian? That is silly.

1 Corinthians 1:12-17 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

 

[Skandelon]

I'm starting the thread...

Let's begin with a simple question. When Paul says, "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy and I will hardened whom I will harden."

Who do you suppose Paul is speaking about? Who are those he shows mercy? Who are those who he hardens?

Are they individual chosen to be saved, the elect and the individual not chosen, the reprobate? Is that the way you interpret this passage?

Anyone going to answer the question? Who is Paul talking about?