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Ronald Reagan and the Conspiracy

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by fromtheright, Dec 16, 2005.

  1. fromtheright

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    I'm curious what any of the folks who follow a conspiracy theory of world events think about Ronald Reagan or his administration (but in particular, his)'s role in the conspiracy and in US/world events.
     
  2. Baptist in Richmond

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    Greetings FTR:

    I have always heard (at least from those who subscribe to conspiracy theories) that Reagan was not part of the NWO conspiracy to take over the world.

    I am curious to see the responses.

    Regards,
    BiR (in Buffalo)
     
  3. poncho

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    I liked Reagan as a president and an actor. It was he that got me thinking about and believing in conservatism and a limited government. As far as this NWO order conspiracy theory goes I haven't got a clue to what you FTR and BiR are speaking of. I always thought that when something was admited it was no longer a theory. [​IMG]

    How do you like Buffalo Bir?

    [ December 16, 2005, 10:02 AM: Message edited by: poncho ]
     
  4. Bro. Curtis

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    I could be mistaken, but I believe Ronnie was one of the only 20th century presidents who was NOT a member of the super secret "Skull & Bones" group.

    As far as NWO, I thought that was a pro wrestling group.
     
  5. fromtheright

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    BiR,

    It's great to hear from you! I hope you're not out often in the weather there. Get warm and get back to Virginia (any warmer there?).


    poncho,

    As far as this NWO order conspiracy theory goes I haven't got a clue to what you FTR and BiR are speaking of.

    There is no conspiracy or it's not a theory? I gather from the statement that followed that you don't consider it a theory. I'm very glad that Reagan had a positive impact on your views as I think he did every conservative. I'm just curious, though, what place you (or any others who believe strongly in a world government/NWO conspiracy) believe Reagan or his administration played in advancing it. Thanks. I hope this finds you well.


    BC,

    As far as NWO, I thought that was a pro wrestling group.

    That's what they're doing now since that conspiracy thing went belly up. :D
     
  6. mioque

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  7. poncho

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    Imo FTR, Reagan was like any other president in that he had control excercised over him by the organized money power of which the Bush's ancestors can certainly claim membership. Other than that, I haven't really looked into Reagan's connections to the NWO other than Bush, CFR and Trilaterals hanging around "advising", the same old culprits in other words. You know the type that admit there is a NWO openly now.

    I'm doing fine FTR here looking at the sunshine reflecting off the ice and snow, purdy ain't it BiR? [​IMG]
     
  8. Vasco

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    Well, the way I read it, Reagan was against all those 'secret' groups and was even going to investigate them, and it all went away when Bush came on as the VP canidate. I also read once in a Jim Marrs book (consider the source) that Neil Bush was having dinner with John Hinkley's brother the day Reagan was shot, but the plans were cancelled after the shooting. It's probably one of those stories that gets twisted misrepresented, but that't the story.
     
  9. fromtheright

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    poncho,

    I'm doing fine FTR here looking at the sunshine reflecting off the ice and snow, purdy ain't it BiR?

    You're stronger men than I. I don't like cold weather. I think I'm becoming my grandfather.

    Thanks for the answer poncho. My problem with that assessment, though, is that he didn't seem to have much control exercised over him: he acted on his anti-Communist views and succeeded in his goal of seeing the Soviet bear fall.
     
  10. Bro. Curtis

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    I gotta job this weekend, troubleshooting a sound system at a hotel in Bozeman, Mt. In lui of my regular pay, I have accepted two free lift tickets to Bridger Bowl ski resort. I like it cold, brother poncho, real cold, with deep snow.


    [​IMG]
     
  11. StraightAndNarrow

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    Reagan conspired with Iran to delay the release of the hostages until after the election in exchange for arms sales to Iran.
     
  12. fromtheright

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    OK, SAN, even accepting that for argument's sake, what did that have to do with advancing a world government?
     
  13. poncho

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    No problem FTR, I don't mind answering questions.

    I agreed 100% with his views on communism as well as his views on the United Nation's anti American leanings. I think I understand the problem here and it doesn't lie with the end of communism, it never really ended at all we have adopted alot of the principles of the philosphy right here in these United States. But with the begining of communism.

    If you are really curious to know where I'm coming from on this it might be a good idea if you read The Future Is Calling by G. Edward Griffin. :cool:

    Sounds like alot more fun than what I got planned for this weekend. I'm going to be standing on a ladder building a patio enclosure in Rochester. I had to travel on over to Erie Pa yesterday to pick up the metal for it, I wasn't much enjoying the ice on I 86 then. You would have loved it on the job I did in New Hampshire, 40 degrees below at noon with a good stiff wind. Can't say as I enjoyed it much though. Especially when I got done on Friday evening with an 8 hour drive back home, top it all off the heater motor in the van up and quit. Took me a week to thaw out! I haven't heard from my helper Danny since I dropped him off the next morning, he's alive and okay and all he just won't talk to me anymore. [​IMG]

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  14. LadyEagle

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    Reagan proportedly attended the Bohemian Grove.

    He also armed OBL.
     
  15. poncho

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    Neil and Marvin turn up in some interesting places, who know's what they've been up too? The press never reports much about them, hmmmm. Being the celeb brothers of George and Jeb one would think the press would be all over em like jelly on toast. I wouldn't look forward to too many answers about these guys if I were you. ;)

    If Reagan was a grovie as alleged by LE ;) then I can't bring myself to believe he would attend because he enjoyed it, it must have been for purely political purposes. Google up what Nixon had to say about the grove he was actually caught on tape discussing it...Oops! :eek:

    After thinking about this for a minute FTR, I'd have to say that seeing as how Reagan was quite successful in the entertainment industry and able to rub shoulders with the Holywood elite he was close to power for a long time. It's the same money powers in Holywood that control the media that have been using the medium of stage and screen to propagandize us for years and years. So, yeah could be and most probably I'd have to think Reagan was part of the show too. Did I mention that I liked him as an actor? [​IMG]

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  16. prophecynut

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    Reagan was a 33 degree Mason.

    http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=1


    NWO most likely was behind assassination attempt on Regan:

    http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/HINCKLEY.html
     
  17. KenH

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    Yeah, to help defeat the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
     
  18. poncho

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    That's only part of the story Ken.
     
  19. Baptist in Richmond

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    Hey!!
    Actually, I received a lesson in "lake effect snow" on Friday. It was coming down so heavy that it was almost blinding. It didn't last that long and wasn't really accumulating on the roads (think the ground temp was too warm). I am looking forward to coming back in March, when I can spend more time. How are things with you? I have not corresponded with you in some time.

    &lt;sound of BiR spitting coffee everywhere&gt;
    Now THAT was hilarious!! I remember the NWO: wasn't that Hogan, Savage, Nash, et al?
    Thanks Bro. Curtis, I really enjoyed that comment!!

    Loved that picture, by the way. Think of me when you are taking advantage of those lift tickets.

    Great to hear from you too. I very much enjoy reading your thoughts/comments and am still looking forward to that cup of coffee downriver in the Norfolk area!
    Virginia was absolutely beautiful today. I got back in town, and the snow upriver is melting. As a result, there is a tremendous amount of water coming down the James River (I live downtown near the rapids) and the riverbed on the south side of Belle Isle (which is usually dry) is a set of rapids that I can hear in the dark as I am typing this. I just love that sound, but I am leaving on business again tomorrow. I have to make one more trip before Christmas.

    I trust that God is blessing all three of you and your wonderful families!!
    Your left-leaning friend,
    BiR
     
  20. poncho

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    Here's one of Devvy Kidd's articles that has something to do with Reagan and North.

    Read the rest here.

    Glad you made it through the storm okay BiR. Fun isn't it? [​IMG]
     
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