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SALVATION IS FROM THE JEWS.

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  1. Alex2165

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    John 4.21-24

    21. Jesus said to her, 'Woman, believe Me, an hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem shall you worship the Father.

    22. You worship that which you do not know, we worship that which we know, Salvation is from the Jews.


    By saying "Salvation is from the Jews," Jesus meant much broader meaning of these words. Jesus Himself is a Jew and He is the One from Whom salvation to is came, but considering Jews as whole, salvation to the world, in some sense, also came and from them.

    Records of Moses, Deliverers of Israel, Prophets, Apostles of Christ, and all others who participated in spreading the Law of Moses and Gospel of Christ all other the world, all of them at the beginning were Jews.

    Our modern Bible is the Records of all these men of GOD, inspired by the Holy Spirit, left to us for our salvation.

    The woman who talks to Jesus most likely was of Jewish origin, because she said to Christ, "You are no greater than our father JACOB, are You?" (verse 12). No Gentile would call Jacob, the father of the people of Israel as his or her father, only Jew would do this. So, it seems at first that she is of Jewish descent. But on what mountain on which her people worship, she did not specify (verse 20), certainly not on the Mount Zion on which Jerusalem stands. Most likely it was some kind nearby mountain.

    According to the Scripture, Sacrifices and worship of GOD must be conducted in the Temple of Jerusalem and not in any other place on Earth. So, she and her local people worshiped GOD differently than the Law prescribed, and when Jesus heard this, He issued a statement that said, "neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem shall you worship the Father."

    By these words Jesus perhaps meant destruction of the Temple about 37 years after His crucifixion, because there is not Temple there is no worship of GOD.

    But in verse 22 Jesus said to a woman that "You worship that which you do not know." This is very puzzling statement. If a woman is Jew, she certainly knows Whom she worships, but if she is Gentile, in this case yes, pagan worshipers do not know what they worship.

    And finally, Jesus ends His statement with the words, "Salvation is from the Jews." Perhaps suggesting that Jews know Whom their worship and salvation will come from them. As previously explained, salvation came from Jesus Christ.

    Jesus Himself is a Jew in flesh. Jesus brought salvation in forms of His Teaching, Miracles, Resurrection of the Dead, and by His Own Death and Resurrection, presenting Himself as One Who has power over Death and Eternal Life, but all this presentation Jesus done it locally, only to His Own people, the Jews.

    His Apostles, disciples, and all His believers and followers also brought salvation, but they brought salvation to entire world, doing the same things that Jesus done before them. They spread the word about Jesus and His Gospel outside the borders of Israel, recorded His deeds, miracles, and teaching, and teach Gentiles the true way to GOD and to salvation Sometime later Gentiles themselves took the leadership in spreading the Gospel, and call themselves as Christians.

    Acts 11.25-26
    25. "Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul (Paul),
    26. and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for an entire year they met with the church and taught a great many people, and it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians."

    And so, indeed, Salvation is from the Jews.
     
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    One of the most if not the greatest warnings from JESUS for exactly these current days is Matthew 25:6: -> 6 And at midnight(isn't it a NEW TURN of GOD's Day, 2Peter 3:8?) there was a cry made; Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him.

    Are you really going although your lamp is trimming? By the way, the beginning of sorrows is already running-Matthew 24:3-8.

    The bridegroom will came very soon and the door will be shut, therefore, those which are ready will go in with Him to the marriage-Revelation 19:7-9 , take a look. The door will be shut for ever.
    By the way, all GOD's people must remember Acts 1:11 - Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same JESUS, which is taken up from you into heaven(into the 3rd heaven), shall so COME IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen Him go into heaven(3rd heaven, that is the next world-Luke 20:35-36. Take a look). JESUS was on Mount called Olivet in the day when He was taken up, right? It was around year 33AD and now shall COME in like manner, right? after two Days, right?Hosea 6:2-3 and John 2:19-Take a look- , and the SAME CLOUD that received Him will again be there in His return, understand? For better understand, compare with Matt.17:5 and Isaiah 4:5 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:.16-18.

    What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD, self-executing, understand? The Word says: Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. Dan.12:v.12 - Yeah, day 1335, the Ineffable, Wonderful, Indescribable, Unspeakable day, the day 1.335. Hallelujaaah!!! It means: 45 days after the period of 1290 days. Get ready you all as JESUS WARNED: Matt. 25: 6-13.

    May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection, now, and for ever.
    Amen

    Celebration of the Lamb's marriage? ONLY AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON
     
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    SALVATION IS FROM THE JEWS, THE ETERNAL PERDITION TOO.

    2 Thessalonians 2:7
    7 The mystery of iniquity doth already work (so, it has lasted around 2000 years, but the Wicked, the false messiah of the Jews, could not still manifest himself):
    only he (the sacrifice of JESUS) who now letteth will let(resists, antagonizes),
    he be taken out of the way(it will no longer be valid, GOD shall send strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness, there will be no more salvation, but the Abomination of Desolation will be established, and eternal perdition.)
     
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    When The Trumpet Of The Lord Shall Sound - YouTube

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea, and walk through a desert, walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of peregrination / pilgrimage. What about GOD's people now or in this current time?

    Now GOD's people will have to go through (I mean win a war) against the Red Dragon, that's exactly it, a Red Dragon yes, this is no coincidence, it was predicted millennia ago. He's a false messiah who will soon manifest, just ahead, with great signs of lying, he will manifest in Israel as a lamb with two horns, he's a Jew, of course, and he'll speak like a Dragon. Revelation 12.v.3 to 17 and Revelation 13:v. 11 to 18.

    Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious, marvelous, and day of exceedingly joy - the day 1335. Amen.

    Similarity between passing by the Red Sea and by the Red Dragon | Pure Bible Forum (and see www.sinaiticus.net )
     
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    Salvation is from the Jews-John 4:22. And the perdition?

    SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS
    Isaiah 7:13-14, he prophesied, saying:
    13 Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my GOD also?
    14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. (GOD with us)

    Isaiah 9:6
    6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    Matthew 1:21 - And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call His name JESUS: for He shall save His people from their sins.

    Luke 2:10-11

    10 And the angel said unto the shepherds: Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
    11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

    John 15:1-2&6
    1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
    2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit He taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, He purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
    6 If a MAN abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

    Acts 4:11-12
    11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
    12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

    Philippians 2:6-8
    6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
    7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
    8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

    Colossians 1:13-19
    13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
    14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
    15 Who is the image of the invisible GOD(John 1:18), the firstborn of every creature:
    16 For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him:
    17 And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist.
    18 And He is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things He might have the preeminence.
    19 For it pleased the Father that in Him should all fulness dwell;

    Hebrews 1:1-3&8
    1GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
    2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;
    3Who being the brightness of His glory, and the express image of GOD's Person, and upholding all things by the Word of His power, when He had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
    8Unto the Son, GOD the Father saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:a Sceptre of righteousness is the Sceptre of thy kingdom.

    1Corinthians 15:24-26
    24 The END cometh, when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to GOD, even the Father; when He shall have PUT DOWN all rule and all authority and power.
    25 For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.
    26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

    Revelation 11:15-18
    15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
    16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before GOD on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped GOD,
    17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord GOD Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
    18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    PERDITION ALSO IS OF THE JEWS

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    continuation of above

    John 17:12
    12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition(the Jewish MAN of sin-2Thessalonians 2:3); that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

    The MAN of sin said to JESUS:Mat.4:3-4:
    3-If thou be the Son of GOD command that these stones be made bread. (The heart of the people of Israel was of stone).
    4 JESUS said to the Devil, MAN of sin: ..
    .Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the MOUTH of GOD.(the Holy Scriptures - the Bible)

    JEWS said to JESUS: - We be Abraham's seed,...John 8:33KJV
    - JESUS said: - I know that ye are Abraham's seed...John 8:37KJV (Positive, they really are seed of Abraham)

    JEWS said: - Abraham is our father.... John 8:39KJV
    - JESUS said:- If ye were Abraham's children...John 8:39KJV (If???? hum!!! Were not they Abraham's children? Are the Jews Abraham's seed, but not Abraham's children?)

    JEWS said:
    - We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. John 8:41KJV
    - JESUS said: - If GOD were your Father...John 8:42 (again If???? hum!!!)
    - JESUS said to the Jews: Why do ye not understand my speech? John 8:43
    - JESUS openly and emphaticaly said to the Jews: Ye are of your father the Devil..., John 8:44. -

    By the way, in Revelation 12:9 , JESUS said:
    9 - And the great Dragon (the red Dragon) was (will be) cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his messengers were cast out with him.
    By the way, "red Dragon" is the new name of the Devi l(of the MAN of sin) in this current time of Apocalypse.

    Genesis 3:v.4-7KJV
    4 And the serpent -the Devil- said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
    6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
    7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked;
    And they sewed fig leaves together(yes, fig leaves of the fig tree-father of the JEWS), and made themselves aprons. (Fig leaves? Yeah, fig leaves, course, even in the Garden of GOD, in Eden)

    Even JESUS said to the Jews: Ye are of your father the Devil...,
    Why did JESUS and John the Baptist call the Jews of serpents?

    It is because the Devil is their father as JESUS (not me) said unto them, they are sons of the old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, now red Dragon. JESUS said: Mat.23:v.33-35:

    33 -Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
    34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    What is the MYSTERY; why JESUS had linked the JEWS to the murder of Abel? That upon the Jews may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth beginning by Abel? GOD caused the NATION of Israel, the clay, the dry land, to spring up out of the earth in the middle of the third Day. The NATION of Israel was created around 2500 years after Adam or 1500 years B.C., so Israel appeared in the half of the third Day of GODs' works. IN FACT, ISRAEL GREW UP AND DEVELOPED IN EGYPT.

    Isaiah 1: v.4-7KJV

    4 Woe to a sinful nation, a people heavy with iniquity, evildoing seed, corrupt children. They forsook the Lord; they provoked the Holy One of Israel; they drew backwards. דה֣וֹי | גּ֣וֹי חֹטֵ֗א עַם כֶּ֣בֶד עָו‍ֹ֔ן זֶ֣רַע מְרֵעִ֔ים בָּנִ֖ים מַשְׁחִיתִ֑ים עָזְב֣וּ אֶת־יְהֹוָ֗ה נִֽאֲצ֛וּ אֶת־קְד֥וֹשׁ יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל נָזֹ֥רוּ אָחֽוֹר:
    5 Why are you beaten when you still continue to rebel? Every head is [afflicted] with illness and every heart with malaise. העַ֣ל מֶ֥ה תֻכּ֛וּ ע֖וֹד תּוֹסִ֣יפוּ סָרָ֑ה כָּל־רֹ֣אשׁ לָֽחֳלִ֔י וְכָל־לֵבָ֖ב דַּוָּֽי:
    6 From the sole of the foot until the head there is no soundness-wounds and contusions and lacerated sores; they have not sprinkled, neither have they been bandaged, nor was it softened with oil. ומִכַּף־רֶ֚גֶל וְעַד־רֹאשׁ֙ אֵין־בּ֣וֹ מְתֹ֔ם פֶּ֥צַע וְחַבּוּרָ֖ה וּמַכָּ֣ה טְרִיָּ֑ה לֹא־זֹ֙רוּ֙ וְלֹ֣א חֻבָּ֔שׁוּ וְלֹ֥א רֻכְּכָ֖ה בַּשָּֽׁמֶן:
    7 Your land is desolate; your cities burnt with fire. Your land-in your presence, strangers devour it; and it is desolate as that turned over to strangers.

    Romans 2:v.5-11

    5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous Judgment of GOD;
    6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
    9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the JEW FIRST, and also of the Gentile;
    10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the JEW FIRST, and also to the Gentile:
    11 For there is no respect of persons with GOD.

    The Word is GOD. What is written above will fulfil LITERALLY henceforward, day by day, until the mysterious Day called Day 1335-Daniel 12:v.12.
    The Word is GOD. The Word is self executing.
    In Christ JESUS
    Oseas
     
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    The woman at the well was a Samaritan. This was a mixed race people (Jew and Gentile).

    When the Hebrew people returned from captivity (Babylon and them Persian) the priests and scribes (Think Ezra and Hezekiah) commanded Hebrew men to put away their foreign wives. Some did, some refused. These folks settled in the area of Jacob’s well.

    They worshipped the God of the Jews, but were considered outcasts by Jewish people.

    This is why she reminds Jesus that Jews have no dealings with Samaritans, which made it unusual for Him to speak to her.

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    After Solomon 's death, Rehoboam his son reigned in his stead. And 10 tribes of Israel separated from Rehoboam and followed Jeroboam. 1 Kings 12:16-20:

    16 So when all Israel saw that the king hearkened not unto them, the people answered the king, saying, What portion have we in David? neither have we inheritance in the son of Jesse: to your tents, O Israel: now see to thine own house, David. So Israel departed unto their tents.

    17 But as for the children of Israel which dwelt in the cities of Judah, Rehoboam reigned over them.

    18 Then king Rehoboam sent Adoram, who was over the tribute; and all Israel stoned him with stones, that he died. Therefore king Rehoboam made speed to get him up to his chariot, to flee to Jerusalem.

    19 So Israel rebelled against the house of David unto this day. (By the way, JESUS is of the house of David, and of the tribe of Judah. This specific detail explains or suggest why JESUS was rejected by His own.)

    20 And it came to pass, when all Israel heard that Jeroboam was come again, that they sent and called him unto the congregation, and made him king over all Israel: there was none that followed the house of David, but the tribe of Judah only.

    2Kings 17:13-24

    13 Yet the Lord testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets.

    14 Notwithstanding they would not hear, but hardened their necks, like to the neck of their fathers, that did not believe in the Lord their God.

    15 And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the Lord had charged them, that they should not do like them.

    16 And they left all the commandments of the Lord their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.

    17 And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke him to anger.

    18 Therefore the Lord was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only.

    19 Also Judah kept not the commandments of the Lord their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made.

    20 And the Lord rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of spoilers, until he had cast them out of his sight.

    21 For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king: and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the Lord, and made them sin a great sin.

    22 For the children of Israel walked in all the sins of Jeroboam which he did; they departed not from them;

    23 Until the Lord removed Israel out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets. So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day.

    24 And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.

    Israel was divided in two Kingdoms, the Kingdom of Judah with headquarter in Jerusalem, and Kingdom of Israel with headquarter in Samaria.

    Revelation 13:11 - 14

    11 And I beheld another Beast coming up out of the earth(Israel); and he had two horns like a lamb(a false lamb, a false messiah-John 5:43-47, two horns by allegory are two Kingdoms), and he spake as a dragon.

    12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast (of sea) before him, and causeth the earth(Israel) and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

    13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

    14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth(Israel) by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast(of sea); saying to them that dwell on the earth(Israel), that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

    There will be two satanic MAN Beasts reigning in the Earth in days to come, one in Jerusalem(a false messiah-John 5:43-47, an IMPOSTOR), another in Rome.

    Get ready

    There will be a WAR from now on, terrible WAR.
     
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    THE LAST DECADE - COUNTDOWN

    Was Satan, son of perdition, born? Yes, he was, of course, decades ago | Page 6 | Baptist Christian Forums (baptistboard.com)
     
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    Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. Then said the Jews unto JESUS; Now we know that thou has a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
    Whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? (or not?)
    Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of GOD, which should come into the world.
    I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of GOD, GOD will give it thee

    .
    Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
    That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

    Words of JESUS from John chapters 8, and 11, and 17

    The Word is GOD, the Word is from everlasting to everslasting, the Word is self-executing, understand? Get ready
     
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