SAVED even if you don't reject 1Cor 12 and 1cor 14?

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Then by the same weight no one denying redemption by grace alone should be allowed the title and honour of being Christian!

 

[BobRyan]

BTW for those who are still confused on this point... The title and OP for this thread is not "how best to condemn SDAs" as much as that might be an interesting thread topic here... rather it is the fact that the acceptance of the continuation of 1Cor 12 and 1Cor 14 spiritual gifts is something that is well known among many Christian groups.

I.e. This is not something unique to SDAs

So whether you agree with the acceptance of 1Cor 12 and 1Cor 14 or not is a discussion question on a much broader scale than "just SDAs".

in Christ,

Bob

 

[DHK]

BTW for those who are still confused on this point... The title and OP for this thread is not "how best to condemn SDAs" as much as that might be an interesting thread topic here... rather it is the fact that the acceptance of the continuation of 1Cor 12 and 1Cor 14 spiritual gifts is something that is well known among many Christian groups.

I.e. This is not something unique to SDAs

So whether you agree with the acceptance of 1Cor 12 and 1Cor 14 or not is a discussion question on a much broader scale than "just SDAs".

in Christ,

Bob

Let not Bob confuse you, or even lie to you.
In the OP Bob quoted DHK as saying:

HP has started a very interesting "cults" thread -- I highly recommend it.

One of the exchanges on that thread basically has DHK arguing the following points about spiritual gifts in 1Cor 12 and 14 when it comes to the gift of prophecy --

He gave some further quotes of DHK even having the name of Ellen G. White in them. The "spiritual gifts in 1Cor 12 and 14 when it comes to the gift of propecy" were mentioned iin direct relation to the so-called false prophet of Ellen G. White. And thus this thread. Do not be deceived that Bob is trying to derail this thread because he cannot answer pertinent questions about the founder of the SDA movement and why she never had the Biblical gift of prophecy. That is the problem that Bob faces. The OP does point this out, though Bob denies it. I should know; I wrote everything that Bob quotes me on.

 

[Melanie]

....if you reject bits of the Bible.....do you mean that the writers were NOT divinely inspired?????

 

[BobRyan]

The point of this thread was/is #5.

I have shown clearly that the issue for that doctrinal position is based on several key points that DHK differs with.

#1. The continuation of spiritual gifts -- yes even prophecy.
#2. The fact that the Bible SHOWS gifts such as prophecy to be given to women even in the NT post-cross.
#3. The fact that churches that do not silence women in church - can still be saved.


While I have provided convincing Bible-based proofs for my position showing DHK to be in error in each case... My point is not to try to convince DHK of his error or anyone who believes like him in this case.

My point is that the salient points are not unique to SDAs. These are the very ponts that(That I have numbered 1-3 above and proven in detail in the pages of this thread) Biblically support the doctrine that DHK challenges in his list (as point #5 of DHK's list) -- and they are not unique to SDAs.

That is beyond dispute to the unbiased objective reader.

This was shown clearly on pages 10 and 11 of this thread - summarizing the page 1 argument.

in Christ,

Bob

And as already noted -- a number of other recent threads started by others (non-SDAs) in this area of the board shows this to be true "in triplicate" as much as DHK would prefer to pretend that SDAs are the only ones accepting these Bible doctrines from 1Cor 12 and 1Cor 14.

And of course the objective unbiased reader sees this clearly:type:

Notice this agreement seen in non-SDA posts --
http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1045435#post1045435

so given these obvious points of agreemet on the basics listed above -- (as seen in these links)
http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1047459#post1047459

How could the unbiased objective reader EVER be fooled into thinking that these 3 basic salient points upon which this entire doctrine depends -- can be downsized to "deal only with SDAs"?? Or that that those who reject these Bible truths found in 1Cor 12 and 1cor 14 could ever spin this around to nothing more than "why we don't like SDA doctrrine on prophecy". The topic is much broader than sectarian bashing on select groups.

Since DHK's post 123 actualy refers the reader back to the OP -- let's actually QUOTE the OP -

Bob Said
So what about this friends? What say you?

CAN you be saved if you allow women to speak in your church??

CAN you be saved if you fail to reject 1Cor 12 and 1Cor 14 on the subject of the spiritual gift of prophecy?

What is the view of this board??

Let your views be heard - err umm seen, read...:laugh:

in Christ,

Bob