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Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Frogman, Feb 14, 2003.

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  1. Frogman

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    I just heard on the news that school nurses (in Pennsylvania) are administering the chemical abortion pill 'the morning after pill' to teenage girls.

    There is a bill being introduced which will block federal funds for any school doing this. Schools now do this in support from planned parenthood.

    The exclusion of Christian values in our schools doesn't bother me as much as to witness the greater degree which so much depravity is received.

    In a society in which 'toleration' is truly observed, then all views would have equal time. The inclusion of one leads to the inclusion of another, but on the other hand, the exclusion of one also opens the door to so much more.


    Bro. Dallas
     
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  2. Wisdom Seeker

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    This is so sad. [​IMG]
     
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  3. stubbornkelly

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    Is it the abortion pill or the morning after pill? My understanding is that they're different. Either way, what are school nurses doing handing our prescription medication??
     
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  4. Terry_Herrington

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    The school district I teach at will only give children medication that is from a doctor and brought to school by the parent. Other than this, they give out peppermints for sore throats or stomach aches and ice packs for headaches. You cannot even get a Tylenol or Tums to give to a child.
     
    #4 Terry_Herrington, Feb 15, 2003
  5. dianetavegia

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    That RU48 has killed some young women. I would certainly hope that no school nurse is assisting in any type of abortion... pill or otherwise. (edited to say... I know that they send girls to Planned Parenthood because they did with our own daughter.... but I would hope...)

    This sure needs our prayer! Thanks, Bro. Dallas, for letting us know about this! If you see it in print, will you link us to it so I can share it with some Pro-life friends?

    God Bless,
    Diane

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  6. Frogman

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    I heard this on King of Kings radio network. Programming based in Somerset KY. which carries national christian news services.

    I will be looking for it and will forward it to you when I find it. I can't remember if this was reported through the news or if I heard it on Crosstalk.

    The report called the pill in question the morning after pill.

    The school system my children attend also require medication to be administered only after a signed note from parents has been documented.

    Nevertheless, my seventh grade son was sick one day last week (vomiting) and school officials told him he could not leave and come home. When he called I went and got him.

    I am a student at WKU with a Soc. Studies and History major seeking Sec. Ed. Certification. The more I deal with public schools I learn they seem to view the student population as 'property' of the state, or at least the school system.

    The accountability testing (especially in KY), I think has shifted the focus from pursuing a true goal of education to pursuing 'teaching the test'if this is true, at least in KY our schools are products of economic funding and not environments of true learning.


    God Bless.
    Bro. Dallas
     
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  7. Scarlett O.

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    I'm always amazed at how quickly everybody jumps on the "moral depravity" bandwagon of public schools. It seems to be the Christian duty these days.

    In the state where I teach, a school nurse can only dispense what has A) been prescribed by the child's doctor and B) authorized by the parent.

    School nurses are not even allowed to dispense a simple Tylenol or some such, even WITH the parent's approval. Only a prescription of "maintainence" medication is given out and that with the parents' instructions.

    I would like to know more actual facts about this alledged giving out of this pill to teen-aged girls before I make a judgement call on the entire state of Pennsylania and the entirety of the public school systems.

    Peace-

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  8. j_barner2000

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    My oldest daughter twisted her ankle getting ready for school and she told my wife it really hurt. My wife sent a note to the teacher asking her to excuse her from running etc because we could not get an appt till the next day. the wife was sure there was not a break, but was concerned about a sprain. The sub phys ed teacher decided that my daughter would not only run but would do jumping jacks also. I was livid. The principle and sub both treated my wife and I like we had no right to determine that she should be excused from anything. In fact, they all but said we had no right to input anything that the school did with our children. We started praying about homeschooling and the more we prayed about it, the worst things had gotten at the school. We have started homeschooling yesterday.
     
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  9. rufus

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    Have WE become a POST-CHRISTIAN nation?

    It is sad!

    rufus :(
     
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  10. Frogman

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    My youngest son (a fifth grader) was also sick at school last thurs. The principle told him he could not come home, nor could he afford to get sick any more; he was running a fever.

    Last August my son broke his left arm (a clear complete break), his doctor held him out of school for about five weeks (there was difficulty in getting the break to rejoin). The school wanted us to let him return. He had been through two surgeries, plus the trauma for a 10 yr. old, we decided best not to, (to prevent someone accidentally bumping him in the hall) and causing extended problems. We kept up with his homework while he was absent.

    When he came home on the afternoon the principal told him he couldn't afford to get sick his fever was very high, we took him to our dr. where he was diagnosed with the flu.

    I understand 'compulsory attendance' laws, and that attendance is important to an education, however, I believe our school systems (at least in KY) have degenerated to something similar to a livestock market.

    The attitude that the school system owns my children frightens me to say the least.

    Bro. Dallas
     
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  11. I Am Blessed 24

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    I just ran across this while surfing..thought it was interesting that this could be prescribed and bought online without ever seeing a physician!
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    We at getthepill.com are committed to providing women with easy access to emergency contraception (the morning after pill) and birth control pills.

    Simply read the applicable FAQ, complete our short medical questionnaire, and submit your personal and payment information. A licensed physician will review your submitted information, and if you are an appropriate candidate for emergency contraception or birth control pills, we will call or fax in your prescription to your local pharmacy.

    You must currently reside in the U.S., be between the age of 18 and 40, and satisfy all of the requirements of the medical questionnaire.

    The fee for our service is $. You will not be charged if you are not accepted as a candidate for a prescription. This fee covers the review of your medical information and the calling in of the prescription. You are responsible for the cost of the medicine at your local pharmacy.

    Emergency Contraception (the morning after pill) and birth control pills are very safe, and there are few true contraindications to these medicines. In fact, there is a move among some gynecologists and pharmaceutical companies to make emergency contraception (the morning after pill) and birth control pills available over-the-counter, but until that time, getthepill.com offers the most convenient and inexpensive alternative.

    emergency contraception/the morning after pill
     
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  12. Rev. Joshua

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    The "morning after" pill is not the same thing as the "abortion" pill. The morning after pill is a high dosage of the hormones contained in birth control pills. It is a form of emergency contraception that can be tried shortly after intercourse.

    Joshua
     
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  13. The Harvest

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    well there you go. Doctor Joshua has spoken. he probably learned this by conjuring up the spirit of his hero Charles Darwin.
     
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  14. I Am Blessed 24

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    If the 'morning after' pill does not induce an abortion; what good is it? Isn't that kind of like locking the barn door after the horse is out???
     
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    I'd be interested in getting the original source for the information presented. I hope it's bogus information!

    Abortion for minors in Pennsylvania requires the consent of at least one parent prior to an abortion, unless a judge rules the minor is competent to make the decision herself.(Judicial bypass). School based health centers require a signed parent consent form before students can be provided services, and health centers provide care regardless of a students' ability to pay.

    Under Federal law, Ru486 can not be provided unless it is given under the supervision of a physician. The Pennsylvania Department of Health adjusted the Federal guidelines for the use of RU486 making stricter rules that state that under its Abortion Control Act only facilities that provide surgical abortions can legally offer RU486. http://www.riskworld.com/PressRel/2000/00q4/PR00a086.htm

    Things may be changing though: Newly elected Pennsylvania Governor Edward G. Rendell (Democrat) signed an Executive Order creating a new Office of Health Care Reform upon his election.”The OHCR will develop solutions for advancing the Governor's health care reform agenda.” according to an official State of Pennsylvania press release.
     
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  16. The Harvest

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    Basic biology... The morning after pill prevents implantation of the egg into the uterous. So instant abortion... Birth control pills can work in a similar way for those who use them... But maybe you didn't want to know that.
     
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  18. Rev. Joshua

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    Here's a link explaining that the "morning after" pill administered by crisis pregnancy centers is a different animal from RU-486:

    Morning After Pill

    A couple of quotes from the above link:

    Joshua
     
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    Our children have never attended a public school. I feel for those Christian parents who have no other option. Although the school may think they "own" the students, there are several Christian liberties that are perfectly legal for any student in a public school:

     
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  20. I Am Blessed 24

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    Basic biology... The morning after pill prevents implantation of the egg into the uterous. So instant abortion... Birth control pills can work in a similar way for those who use them... But maybe you didn't want to know that. </font>[/QUOTE][​IMG] I was making that statement to prove that the 'morning after' pill IS an abortion pill or there would be no sense in using it.

    I am definitely pro-life all the way! [​IMG]

    Sue
     
    #20 I Am Blessed 24, Feb 22, 2003
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