Should we care about people going to Hell --

[Salty]

For those who want to argue with a C vs A .....

from the original page:

A poster had said:
Yep. Whichever team had most players take a knee during the National Anthem loses. The Woke/Communist NFL can suck eggs in Hell for all I care.

I do care who goes to Hell!

What does the Bible say about this

9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance (2Pe 3.9).v/x

3 [It] is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, [that we pray for all men] 4 [because He] desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth (1Ti 2.3, 4).

 

[canadyjd]

For those who want to argue with a C vs A .....

from the original page:

A poster had said:
Yep. Whichever team had most players take a knee during the National Anthem loses. The Woke/Communist NFL can suck eggs in Hell for all I care.

I do care who goes to Hell!

What does the Bible say about this

9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance (2Pe 3.9).v/x

3 [It] is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, [that we pray for all men] 4 [because He] desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth (1Ti 2.3, 4).

Those who do not care about people going to hell are like a man looking in a mirror and immediately forgetting who he was prior to salvation.

Jesus said to show mercy, forgive, as we have been shown mercy, have received forgiveness. “Not caring” is not showing mercy.

peace to you

 

[Reynolds]

For those who want to argue with a C vs A .....

from the original page:

A poster had said:
Yep. Whichever team had most players take a knee during the National Anthem loses. The Woke/Communist NFL can suck eggs in Hell for all I care.

I do care who goes to Hell!

What does the Bible say about this

9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance (2Pe 3.9).v/x

3 [It] is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, [that we pray for all men] 4 [because He] desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth (1Ti 2.3, 4).

Had your staff not deleted the comment, this could have been dealt with 4 threads ago.
Suck eggs in Hell is a phrase that is not literal. Since you took it literal, we can deal with it literally. David at times delighted in the punishment of the wicked. The Martyrs under the altar in the book of Revelation beg for the torment of the wicked. I see no problem in enjoying the fall of the wicked.

From a high Calvinistic point of theology, show me my error.

 

[JonC]

Had your staff not deleted the comment, this could have been dealt with 4 threads ago.
Suck eggs in Hell is a phrase that is not literal. Since you took it literal, we can deal with it literally. David at times delighted in the punishment of the wicked. The Martyrs under the altar in the book of Revelation beg for the torment of the wicked. I see no problem in enjoying the fall of the wicked.

From a high Calvinistic point of theology, show me my error.

No clue about the sucking eggs part.

But I do not understand how a Christian can enjoy the idea about other people perishing as they were once in the same boat.

 

[AustinC]

I honestly want to know...how has this bogus topic grown so many legs from Reynolds obvious hyperbole. It's like trying to extract water from a desert rock.

 

[Reynolds]

No clue about the sucking eggs part.

But I do not understand how a Christian can enjoy the idea about other people perishing as they were once in the same boat.

Were the Martyrs in ReV 6:9-10 wrong?
The rejoicing is not completely in the torment of the evil doer but that is a component. The rejoicing is in the fact they can no longer harm others with their evil. You will have to admit that the text is also plain the Martyrs sought a degree of revenge and wanted absolute justice.

 

[Reynolds]

I honestly want to know...how has this bogus topic grown so many legs from Reynolds obvious hyperbole. It's like trying to extract water from a desert rock.

Because it has become a fascination of Salty.

 

[agedman]

Does God rejoice in the death of the wicked?

I have a slightly different perspective on Revelation 6.

Those under the alter are not rejoicing, but pleading for God to bring a swift end that evil be cut off and His vengeance establish Justice.

There are seals, trumpets, and thunder that must occur, then the reaping followed by the bowls of wrath. While the believers (as the psalmist said) sit down at a table prepared for them and feast - right in in the presence (sight) of the enemies (for earlier in the Revelation the curtain is pulled back and earth can look into the current heaven) - while the bowls of Gods wrath are being poured out, dumped upon this earth.

Believers rejoice in the presence of Christ and the Goodness of God, while the earth is tormented and people try to hide from God.

Our heads are anointed with the oil of rulership, our cups run over in abundance, and the people of the earth can see that very Goodness and Mercy that found us, preserved us, present us faultless before the Father. That We will dwell in the house of the Lord, forever. While they wrestle in sorrow, pain, and growing rebellious animosity.

We do not rejoice in seeing death and pain, our eyes are on the things of the Saviour, and we will rejoice in the feast of the King of Kings.

 

[JonC]

Were the Martyrs in ReV 6:9-10 wrong?
The rejoicing is not completely in the torment of the evil doer but that is a component. The rejoicing is in the fact they can no longer harm others with their evil. You will have to admit that the text is also plain the Martyrs sought a degree of revenge and wanted absolute justice.

Given that God does not take pleasure in the destruction of the wicked I believe you may be misreading verses pleading for justice to be rejoicing in their destruction.

We cannot ignore that God loved these people by sending His Son. I don't mean Christ died to save tge righteous out of a wicked world but that Christ suffered and died to save wicked people, to rescue sinners.

Rather than rejoicing when wicked people die we should be pleading for them to repent while they are alive.

If God takes no pleasure in their destruction then I see no room for men to rejoice in their destruction.

 

[5 point Gillinist]

No clue about the sucking eggs part.

But I do not understand how a Christian can enjoy the idea about other people perishing as they were once in the same boat.

I suppose rejoicing over God's justice against the individual's evil while mourning the individual's willful rejection of God's mercy?

 

[JonC]

I suppose rejoicing over God's justice against the individual's evil while mourning the individual's willful rejection of God's mercy?

I think so. We have to remember we were once enemies of God as well. Having the mind of Christ is loving our enemies (as He loved His enemies).

 

[37818]

Believing what is not true does make anything true.
Denying what is true does not make what is true not true.
Since there are more possibilities than two, the odds are what one believes can be wrong.

 

[kyredneck]

You will have to admit that the text is also plain the Martyrs sought a degree of revenge and wanted absolute justice.

IMO, vengeance is exactly what was in the mind of Christ here:

49 I came to cast fire upon the earth; and what do I desire, if it is already kindled?
50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! Lu 12

Probably here also. A few of the remarks that He made to 'them' just a few hours before He was crucified:

13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees...
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees...,
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees...
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides...
17 Ye fools and blind...
19 Ye blind:...
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!...
24 Ye blind guides, that strain out the gnat, and swallow the camel!
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!...
26 Thou blind Pharisee...
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!...
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!...
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers, how shall ye escape the judgment of hell?
34 Therefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: some of them shall ye kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city:
35 that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of Abel the righteous unto the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the sanctuary and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. Mt 23

 

[calledbyHisgrace]

Some of Christ's words, (and the imprecatory Psalms spoken prophetically by David as the words of Christ), absolutely show a sense of delight in the destruction of the wicked. The Martyrs under the alter also show this desire for vengeance. But we, who are still imperfect flesh ourselves, are called to love our enemies. We have no way of knowing who God has purposed to save. Even the most wicked person we know may well be one who God has loved "with an everlasting love".

 

[timdabap]

Those who do not care about people going to hell are like a man looking in a mirror and immediately forgetting who he was prior to salvation.

Jesus said to show mercy, forgive, as we have been shown mercy, have received forgiveness. “Not caring” is not showing mercy.

peace to you

well, the way I look at it is I could care more than God Himself but there's really nothing anyone can do about it. He saved, He redeemed, He decided who went to heaven....outta my sinful hands.

 

[canadyjd]

well, the way I look at it is I could care more than God Himself but there's really nothing anyone can do about it. He saved, He redeemed, He decided who went to heaven....outta my sinful hands.

AND…..

God told us to give an account for the joy and peace we have, to love and pray our enemies, teach, make disciples, to be that shining light on a hill.

We cannot do those things if we do not care if people go to hell.

peace to you

 

[37818]

Believing what is not true does make anything true.

Believing what is not true does not make anything true.

 

[kyredneck]

Were the Martyrs in ReV 6:9-10 wrong?

Absolutely not, they were told to rejoice:

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye saints, and ye apostles, and ye prophets; for God hath judged your judgment on her.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that have been slain upon the earth [the land]. Rev 18

34 Therefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: some of them shall ye kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city:
35 that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth [the land], from the blood of Abel the righteous unto the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the sanctuary and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that killeth the prophets, and stoneth them that are sent unto her! how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Mt 23

...it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. Lu 13:33

Christ could hardly wait for it:

49 I came to cast fire upon the earth [the land]; and what do I desire, if it is already kindled? Lu 12

 

[agedman]

I honestly want to know...how has this bogus topic grown so many legs from Reynolds obvious hyperbole. It's like trying to extract water from a desert rock.

You mean you aren't Moses?