Sinful v. Saved

[Revmitchell]

Do you believe it is wrong or at least incorrect to call man sinful? Why or why not.


My position is that calling man sinful is a recognition that we are not yet fully redeemed (Romans 8:19; I Peter 1:3-5) and therefore still commit acts of sin (Romans 7:14-15). This means we are sinful or full of sin (Romans 7:17).

This however in no way reasonably or theologically negates that we have a promise of a full redemption which is in the future (Romans 8:19).

While we may sin we are no longer bound or enslaved to sin like we once were (Romans 7:17).

 

[Winman]

Do you believe it is wrong or at least incorrect to call man sinful? Why or why not.


My position is that calling man sinful is a recognition that we are not yet fully redeemed (Romans 8:19; I Peter 1:3-5) and therefore still commit acts of sin (Romans 7:14-15). This means we are sinful or full of sin (Romans 7:17).

This however in no way reasonably or theologically negates that we have a promise of a full redemption which is in the future (Romans 8:19).

While we may sin we are no longer bound or enslaved to sin like we once were (Romans 7:17).

Were Adam and Eve sinful before they sinned?

Were Adam and Eve sinful after they sinned?

What then determines whether one is sinful or not?

And what does the word "saved" mean? Does a person without sin need to be saved?

 

[Winman]

While we may sin we are no longer bound or enslaved to sin like we once were (Romans 7:17).

When the scriptures say we are enslaved to sin, that does not mean we are compelled to sin, else every man would always do the most evil thing he can do. Even Calvinists admit man does not always do the most evil thing he can do, so being enslaved by sin cannot be speaking of compulsion.

What the scriptures mean is that we are "bound" or "condemned" by sin. We are like a man on death row awaiting execution. There is no escape from this condemnation except to trust Jesus for the forgiveness of our sins.

When the scriptures say we are free from sin, this does not mean we are no longer tempted to sin, but we are no longer held or bound in the condemnation of sin. We have died with Jesus to sin, and are now raised with him to righteousness.

 

[Revmitchell]

Were Adam and Eve sinful before they sinned?

How is that relevant?

Were Adam and Eve sinful after they sinned?

Yes

What then determines whether one is sinful or not?

See the op

And what does the word "saved" mean?

Do you believe that Christians no longer sin at this time?

Does a person without sin need to be saved?

See first question

 

[Yeshua1]

How is that relevant?



Yes



See the op



Do you believe that Christians no longer sin at this time?





See first question

think that we should be seen as now being in Christ saints, who at times still choose to sin!