Slanted Language

[Dr. Bob]

I am a "master" at slanting a question or using language that will promote MY position and denigrate OTHERS. That is not good, even in a debate.

Almost as bad as the "when did you stop beating your wife" question!

But I'm seeing this as a trend in the Greek document debate.

About the Eastern Catholic/Orthodox family of texts these are acceptable or good because they are "Apostolic", "Europe", "asia minor"-centered. "God sent Paul to that area". They are "copious", "agree with each other", accepted by the Church.

About the Western Catholic/Orthodox family of texts these are "inferior", "egyptian", "vatican", "minority", "delete", "error-filled", "Catholic". Found in a "garbage can", "dusty discarded library shelf" . .

Well, it goes on and on. And I'm as guilty using such slanted language . . or more so.

And of course, that's because YOU are a "sect", "uneducated", "bibliolaters", following "Rcukman" or even worse, "Hyles".

If you'd all just agree with me we could quit this slanted language . . until someone mentions arminian or evolution or liberals . . and the verbal volleys renew!

MY RESOLVE is to post with more kindness and less sarcastic barbs.

At least for Christmas.

 

[robycop3]

My resolve is to keep asking the KJVOs to actually provide some EVIDENCE justifying their doctrine, and to discredit them on the versions issue if they can't. All we've had from them for some 30 years is opinion and guesswork, with not a bit of any proof for their assertions or evidence supporting their views.

 

[gb93433]

Originally posted by robycop3:
My resolve is to keep asking the KJVOs to actually provide some EVIDENCE justifying their doctrine, and to discredit them on the versions issue if they can't. All we've had from them for some 30 years is opinion and guesswork, with not a bit of any proof for their assertions or evidence supporting their views.

Don't waste your time. The proof is in the puddin'.

Remember 13:7, "Remember those who led you, who spoke the word of God to you; and considering the result of their conduct, imitate their faith."

Just look at the outcome of one's faith. The proof of their faith and leadership is seen in their followers. Who is living for Jesus Christ is the real question to ask.

If a person wants to use the KJV or be KJVO that is their choice. But to have no proof is another. And even worse for anyone is to have no prof you ever lived because nobody is following Jesus because of your life.

The man who helped me a lot had as his Bible the KJV but never insisted I use it or anyone else. Although he was not a pastor there were 640 people at his funeral in 1995. To this day he is still talked about. Because of his life there are so many others who are on the mission field and in the pulpits of various places who weren't there. That's what life is all about--spiritual reproduction.

 

[robycop3]

"Speaking" on the assumption that you're a devout and sincere Christian, you know evangelizing as God presents the opportunity is every Christian's duty. But He has special work for every Christian also, such as pastor, teacher, musician, financial officer, custodian, etc. Some have more seemingly-important tasks such as evangelist, but EVERY job is important to GOD, or He wouldn't have us do them.Mine is exposing and fighting false doctrines such as KJVO. There are lots of others who do it better than I, but shame on me if I don't use my "one talent" and support those to whom God has given "ten talents" to use.

 

[Singleman]

It's my belief (based on passages like 1 Peter 3:15-16) that our duty as Christians requires us to always treat our opponents fairly and with respect, even when we are in sharp disagreement with them. To misrepresent someone's point of view (whether through sarcasm, exaggeration, selective quotation, or some other device) is simply another form of lying. In my opinion, God is not honored by our winning an argument through dishonorable means.

 

[Trotter]

Roby-

Hey, we have something in common. I feel driven to fight against any form of false doctrine or cult. Well, I see by some of your other posts we have more than just that, but this is a major point to me. Most people just say, "Well, they are entitled to their opinion," or, "They have the right to be wrong." Although both statements are true, both are also wrong. Everyone IS entitled to their opinion, but if in teaching that opinion to others they are defacing my Lord and God, they are free game. If someone is going about spreading error as truth, they will have me to deal with.

I guess I feel this way because it could have very easily been me in their place. For most of my life I looked for something to put my faith into. Thankfully, Godd place my wife in my path instead of a JW or a Mormon.

Singleman-

True, we should treat our opponents with dignity and respect, and I try to. But I have found that most people who hold to error either are ignorant (and are usually embarrassed when confronted by the truth), or are mindful of what they are doing. Those who fall into the second catagory usually become very abusive very quickly. I then respond in kind.

If you look at my posts, you will see that this rule is not hard and fast. I try to be civil with all, but I do not abide error or false doctrine at all. But, at least I am honest able it

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In Christ,
Trotter