Slavery

[Cutter]

Considering the fact that slavery has been a part of history for several more years than the last 300, is slavery forbidden in the Bible or considered a sin in the sight of God? Please supply the scripture if you think it is.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Considering the fact that slavery has been a part of history for several more years than the last 300, is slavery forbidden in the Bible or considered a sin in the sight of God? Please supply the scripture if you think it is.

Slavery - the type that happened in America for so many centuries - was definitely a sin in the sight of God. In fact, it was punishable by death.

[SIZE=+0]Exodus 21:16 [/SIZE]
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"And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." (KJV) [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+0] "A kidnapper must be killed, whether he is caught in possession of his victim or has already sold him as a slave." (LB)[/SIZE]

 

[menageriekeeper]

Are you just trying to get banned Cutter?

On the off chance that you are trying to start a legimate conversation, I'll answer you.

I believe that God allows many things He doesn't necessarily approve of. He allowed us to sin in the first place. So what is one more sin?

Physical human slavery provided a 3D, hands on lesson on the mercy of God all through the OT. It provided a means of growth (remember God blessed Israel while they were yet in Egypt with a huge population growth), a means of miracle (coming out of Egypt) and a means of chastisement (Nebuchadnezzer etc). Christ used slavery as an object lesson to show how mankind in is slavery to one's sin.

But for Christians: if we are set free why should we feel that it is okay to enslave another human. Does not Christ tell us to do two things? Love thy God and Love they neighbor as thyself? How can a loving, God-fearing Christian in all good conscience then, enslave another? It can only be through the hardening of our hearts. God forbid.

 

[canadyjd]

Are you just trying to get banned Cutter?

On the off chance that you are trying to start a legimate conversation, I'll answer you.

I believe that God allows many things He doesn't necessarily approve of. He allowed us to sin in the first place. So what is one more sin?

Physical human slavery provided a 3D, hands on lesson on the mercy of God all through the OT. It provided a means of growth (remember God blessed Israel while they were yet in Egypt with a huge population growth), a means of miracle (coming out of Egypt) and a means of chastisement (Nebuchadnezzer etc). Christ used slavery as an object lesson to show how mankind in is slavery to one's sin.

But for Christians: if we are set free why should we feel that it is okay to enslave another human. Does not Christ tell us to do two things? Love thy God and Love they neighbor as thyself? How can a loving, God-fearing Christian in all good conscience then, enslave another? It can only be through the hardening of our hearts. God forbid.

Very well done!!!:applause::applause:

peace to youraying:

 

[THEOLDMAN]

very well done!!!:applause::applause:

Peace to youraying:

amen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GBC Pastor]

Are you just trying to get banned Cutter?

On the off chance that you are trying to start a legimate conversation, I'll answer you.

I believe that God allows many things He doesn't necessarily approve of. He allowed us to sin in the first place. So what is one more sin?

Physical human slavery provided a 3D, hands on lesson on the mercy of God all through the OT. It provided a means of growth (remember God blessed Israel while they were yet in Egypt with a huge population growth), a means of miracle (coming out of Egypt) and a means of chastisement (Nebuchadnezzer etc). Christ used slavery as an object lesson to show how mankind in is slavery to one's sin.

But for Christians: if we are set free why should we feel that it is okay to enslave another human. Does not Christ tell us to do two things? Love thy God and Love they neighbor as thyself? How can a loving, God-fearing Christian in all good conscience then, enslave another? It can only be through the hardening of our hearts. God forbid.

:thumbsup: I think that about covers it!

 

[saturneptune]

This thread is outrageous. Growing up in Mississippi several decades ago, I deeply resent even the question posed. Even as a child, and not a Christian, and not even slavery, but segregation, just watching it, any idiot could figure out it was wrong. It really has nothing to do with the Bible, or being a Christian, but with basic respect for your fellow man. All one had to do was observe the restaurants, bathrooms, buses, swimming pools, housing, voting rights, and job opportunities to know it was wrong.

It is beyond my belief that a thread like this exists in 2010 on a board that holds up the name of Christ as the center of our lives.

 

[Alcott]

While slavery as a systematic reality is not given a blanket condemnation in scripture, it obviously violates the ideal of treating others the way you would choose to be treated. Kidnapping/manstealing is forbidden, as has been posted here, but slavery also came from indebtedness, a poor man selling his children to survive, or the fate of prisoners of war. It can be seen that a believer in scripture may think he can own slaves as long as he didn't kidnap them; that they were already slaves when he bought or inherited them. So only the ideal of the 'golden rule' remains, and the only way to justify slavery with that is to deny that the slaves are persons to whom such an ideal would apply. And that's the enormous crime of the African slave trade and slavery in America-- the denial of personhood and the dignity and opportunity that we boldly state as an "unalienable right."

 

[Trotter]

This thread is outrageous. Growing up in Mississippi several decades ago, I deeply resent even the question posed. Even as a child, and not a Christian, and not even slavery, but segregation, just watching it, any idiot could figure out it was wrong. It really has nothing to do with the Bible, or being a Christian, but with basic respect for your fellow man. All one had to do was observe the restaurants, bathrooms, buses, swimming pools, housing, voting rights, and job opportunities to know it was wrong.

It is beyond my belief that a thread like this exists in 2010 on a board that holds up the name of Christ as the center of our lives.

Amen, brother. I grew up a few miles above the Georgia line but spent a lot of time with kin in south Georgia. Even though my grandmother was as prejudiced as they come i could see that it was wrong. My mom taught preschool and I went with her on a lot of home visits over the years and I saw that folks are folks no matter what shade their skin happens to be.

The very fact that some Christians still harbor this kind of hatred in their hearts hurts the name of Christ.

 

[gb93433]

American slavery was about stealing people to make a profit and that is clearly stealing.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

This thread is outrageous. Growing up in Mississippi several decades ago, I deeply resent even the question posed. Even as a child, and not a Christian, and not even slavery, but segregation, just watching it, any idiot could figure out it was wrong. It really has nothing to do with the Bible, or being a Christian, but with basic respect for your fellow man. All one had to do was observe the restaurants, bathrooms, buses, swimming pools, housing, voting rights, and job opportunities to know it was wrong.

It is beyond my belief that a thread like this exists in 2010 on a board that holds up the name of Christ as the center of our lives.

Amen, amen, and AMEN!!

 

[windcatcher]

Personally, I think the question is legitimate and from time to time should be asked and revisited until there is no slavery in this world..... if that's possible.

The answers and response are correct and adequate, is my reply.

 

[DHK]

Jesus did not come to this world as a social reformer. He came as a Savior. The world has enough social reformers, but it has only one Savior. By dying on the cross he offered forgiveness of sins, and thus a message of forgiveness of sins. He said that the truth will make you free. The only freedom that one has is in Christ.

Paul was in prison when a slave called Onesimus went and found him. It was there that Onesimus found true freedom, the freedom Jesus spoke of. Paul sent Onesimus back to his master, Philemon. Philemon eventually gave this slave his freedom and forgave his debt. They had become brothers in the Lord. The entire letter is a letter of forgiveness, a letter which brings freedom.
The gospel brings freedom. Jesus wasn't a social reformer. But his message reforms sinners such as us.

 

[righteousdude2]

This Is Why You Are A Moderator...

Jesus did not come to this world as a social reformer. He came as a Savior. The world has enough social reformers, but it has only one Savior. By dying on the cross he offered forgiveness of sins, and thus a message of forgiveness of sins. He said that the truth will make you free. The only freedom that one has is in Christ.

Paul was in prison when a slave called Onesimus went and found him. It was there that Onesimus found true freedom, the freedom Jesus spoke of. Paul sent Onesimus back to his master, Philemon. Philemon eventually gave this slave his freedom and forgave his debt. They had become brothers in the Lord. The entire letter is a letter of forgiveness, a letter which brings freedom.
The gospel brings freedom. Jesus wasn't a social reformer. But his message reforms sinners such as us.

DHK, that was well said. There should be little dissent on this comment. But, what do I know. Still, I agree with this, and I think you came to point with the use of Scripture.

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

 

[Steven2006]

This thread is outrageous. Growing up in Mississippi several decades ago, I deeply resent even the question posed. Even as a child, and not a Christian, and not even slavery, but segregation, just watching it, any idiot could figure out it was wrong. It really has nothing to do with the Bible, or being a Christian, but with basic respect for your fellow man. All one had to do was observe the restaurants, bathrooms, buses, swimming pools, housing, voting rights, and job opportunities to know it was wrong.

It is beyond my belief that a thread like this exists in 2010 on a board that holds up the name of Christ as the center of our lives.

Great post!


Sadly it seems like a week can't go by at this site without some mention of race. One would think that with Christians it wouldn't even be a factor. I cringe at the thought of a person coming to this site to look for some answers about Christianity.