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Socialized Medicine Director Dies Waiting for Operation

carpro

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http://thenewamerican.com/opinion/s...-medicine-director-dies-waiting-for-operation

Socialized Medicine Director Dies Waiting for Operation
Written by Selwyn Duke

Monday, 04 April 2011 16:36

It’s a bit like a supermarket manager dying of starvation or a bottled-water distributor dying of thirst: In the U.K., a former National Health Service (NHS) director died while waiting for medical care — at her own hospital. The Daily Mail reports:

Margaret Hutchon, a former mayor, had been waiting since last June for a follow-up stomach operation at Broomfield Hospital in Chelmsford, Essex.

But her appointments to go under the knife were cancelled four times and she barely regained consciousness after finally having surgery.

Her devastated husband, Jim, is now demanding answers from Mid Essex Hospital Services NHS Trust — the organisation where his wife had served as a non-executive member of the board of directors.

He said: "I don't really know why she died. I did not get a reason from the hospital. We all want to know for closure. She got weaker and weaker as she waited and operations were put off."

Not to be cruel, but the reason is simple.

It’s called government-run health care.
 

carpro

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Delicious irony?

Poetic justice?

Or just a great, but aceptable, tradgedy associated with government run healthcare. Part of the price that has to be paid.
 

Crabtownboy

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At least she was scheduled. We have people die because no dentist will see them. We have people die because they have no insurance. We have people die because the insurance companies refuse to cover their care or various procedures. Insurance companies are the death panels in our system. Remember the little boy in Maryland? Don't feel self-righteous yet.
 
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Bro. Curtis

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I have hoped form the beginning that those who force this kind of law on people should be the first to suffer. I hope this story gets legs.
 

Crabtownboy

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I have hoped form the beginning that those who force this kind of law on people should be the first to suffer. I hope this story gets legs.

I am curious ... would you be as happy if it were an insurance executive who died because his company would not pay for a procedure he needed?
 

carpro

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I have hoped form the beginning that those who force this kind of law on people should be the first to suffer. I hope this story gets legs.

The irony is that this woman, even if she were homeless and indigent could have gone to any hospital in America and been operated on immediately.

It was her bad luck to be at the mercy of a government run system.
 

menageriekeeper

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The irony is that this woman, even if she were homeless and indigent could have gone to any hospital in America and been operated on immediately.

It was her bad luck to be at the mercy of a government run system.

Don't you believe it! There are many hospitals who wouldn't have taken this woman as a patient unless she could prove that she could pay. Homeless/indigents are given free care (supported by the gov and often substandard care), illegals have learned they can go to ER where they have to be seen, the poor have medicare/medicaid or state run insurance, but there are those in the middle who make to much for the "poverty programs" and not enough to pay for regular insurance and those are the ones who suffer most.

There is NO one single answer to health care. But we shouldn't put ourselves up as the model for the world, because we have cases very similar right here in the US.
 

Bro. Curtis

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The irony is that this woman, even if she were homeless and indigent could have gone to any hospital in America and been operated on immediately.

It was her bad luck to be at the mercy of a government run system.

Yup. I wonder what the euroweenies spend on free health care for people illegally in their country.
 

J.D.

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Don't you believe it! There are many hospitals who wouldn't have taken this woman as a patient unless she could prove that she could pay. Homeless/indigents are given free care (supported by the gov and often substandard care), illegals have learned they can go to ER where they have to be seen, the poor have medicare/medicaid or state run insurance, but there are those in the middle who make to much for the "poverty programs" and not enough to pay for regular insurance and those are the ones who suffer most.

There is NO one single answer to health care. But we shouldn't put ourselves up as the model for the world, because we have cases very similar right here in the US.
There is an answer to health care: Doctor/Patient negotiated fees, direct payment, catastrophic insurance coverage or charity for those that can't afford it. Get the government completely out of it and it'll stabilize.
 

carpro

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Don't you believe it! There are many hospitals who wouldn't have taken this woman as a patient unless she could prove that she could pay.

Sorry, but it's been the law for many years. Emergency treatment must be delivered without regard to ability to pay, up to an including surgery.
 

Robert Snow

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I have hoped form the beginning that those who force this kind of law on people should be the first to suffer. I hope this story gets legs.

This is one disgusting comment. I guess if I wished this on you are your family...but I wouldn't wish this on anyone. I guess it's just a progressive idea to have compassion.
 

Crabtownboy

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Sorry, but it's been the law for many years. Emergency treatment must be delivered without regard to ability to pay, up to an including surgery.

You miss the point. By the time it was an emergency it was too late for her to survive. Hospitals do not have to take you if it is not an emergency. For many without insurance here by the time it is an emergency it is too late for them to survive.
 

JohnDeereFan

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At least she was scheduled. We have people die because no dentist will see them. We have people die because they have no insurance. We have people die because the insurance companies refuse to cover their care or various procedures. Insurance companies are the death panels in our system. Remember the little boy in Maryland? Don't feel self-righteous yet.

Crabtownlittleboy, you're confusing two things. You're confusing with an insurance company not paying for a procedure with a government making the procedure unavailable.
 

JohnDeereFan

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This is one disgusting comment. I guess if I wished this on you are your family...but I wouldn't wish this on anyone. I guess it's just a progressive idea to have compassion.

In all fairness, if I'm not mistaken, Curtis is a cancer survivor. In my opinion, that gives him a little more credibility when speaking on such things.
 

JohnDeereFan

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This is one disgusting comment. I guess if I wished this on you are your family...but I wouldn't wish this on anyone. I guess it's just a progressive idea to have compassion.

Progressives don't have compassion. Progressives believe that the poor should be warehoused in massive government burueacracies and their poverty subsidized.
 

carpro

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You miss the point. By the time it was an emergency it was too late for her to survive. Hospitals do not have to take you if it is not an emergency. For many without insurance here by the time it is an emergency it is too late for them to survive.

Did I?

The article doesn't say that. It's just what you want to believe. Sounded to me like it may have been an emergency days , or even weeks, before
the operation was performed.

But you seem to be right about one thing. The delay killed her. The delay was thanks to a government run healthcare system. Same problem.

She's still dead and didn't have to be.
 

JohnDeereFan

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In a related story...

Surgeons say patients in some parts of England have spent months waiting in pain because of delayed operations or new restrictions on who qualifies for treatment...

...Surgeons have described the delays faced by patients as "devastating and cruel". Peter Kay, the president of the British Orthopaedic Association (BOA), says they've become increasingly frustrated that hip and knee replacements are being targeted as a way of finding savings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12964360
 
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