Some Justice for New Orleans Gun Owners

Sounds like the locals wanted to impose martial law for no good reason other than a power grab. They prove how frightful the expression is, "I'm from the government and I am here to help you."

In this case, the government had sided with the criminals openly.

 

It sure pointed out to the haters of private gun ownership, how easy the confiscation of guns will be in the future if they (social engineers) need to disarm us for their agenda/s.

The NRA members nearly to a man will declare how it would be impossible for the neighborhood sheriff to take their guns.

 

I have a question. Is it ok for criminals to shoot at rescue workers and police officers? If they didn't have guns they wouldn't have been able to shoot at them. How can police and rescue workers do their jobs when they are being shot at? Rescue workers have no guns, police have limited ammunition.

dragoon, I respect your opinion but find it a bit humourous. If you believe that the government wants to take everyone's guns away in order to have power over them, wouldn't that make you a conspiracy theorist?

 

Yes, I know that the criminals will always have the weapons. I don't see that as an excuse though.

You are half right. Law enforcement is not over us...unless we break the law. I don't know what it's like there but here law enforcement is not hired to help provide order...they are hired to PROVIDE the order. They don't ask us to help them with our guns.

If you DO want to help with "law enforcement" that's fine then. But you don't have the right to do it when someone is persecuting you for your faith. The Bible tells us how to handle that.

Final question. Is it fact that the government wants to disarm the public so that they can persecute the public? Wouldn't that make you a conspiracy theorist? And if it were true, what does that say about your government...when your government IS the people? Could that happen in the 'best' country in the world?

 

"The NRA members nearly to a man will declare how it would be impossible for the neighborhood sheriff to take their guns."

Maybe so...would they be honouring God?

Dragoon, isn't the right to bear arms in the context of forming a well regulated militia? Is your neighbourhood a well regulated militia? How come the Jewish nation in biblical times didn't have this 'right'?

 

That's fine if you don't want to debate.

Was God pleased with you "kicking out the king" back then?

I hope they never abuse their power here either. And we didn't give it to them. God did. Romans says so. But still...we can't be sure they would abuse this power. That's for a conspiracy theorist to theorize about.

Here in Canada we trust niether as well. Many of us trust God to protect us.

 

------"I have a question. Is it ok for criminals to shoot at rescue workers and police officers? If they didn't have guns they wouldn't have been able to shoot at them. How can police and rescue workers do their jobs when they are being shot at? Rescue workers have no guns, police have limited ammunition."

Aren't you haveing a criminal shooting spree in Toronto right now? What good has gun control done, except make the criminals bolder and the good folks more vunerable? The idea of stopping criminals by not letting any of us have guns is not working in Toronto, it just does not work. Now we have seen in NO that the Govenmeant can not provide order under all circumstances, so we need to be armed.

------"they are hired to PROVIDE the order."

I was a police officer. And on a given night we had 12 to 20 officers on duty for a 100,000 population. The police cannot provide order, they can only HELP the citizens keep it. Only in a dictatorship can the gov or police qurantee order by tyranical means.

 

Glad to see the government put in it's place by the people .

As far as the gun debate:

We are guaranteed the right to bear arms. Armed citizens deter tyranny. If you don't believe tyranny can exist, look at history. It has once been said that the second amendment is "the palladium of the liberties of the republic". Also, armed citizens can protect themselves. When law enforcement is busy looting Walmarts, what is there to protect the law abiding American citizen in an emergency like Katrina? The gun is.

I am 100% pro-2nd amendment, and in my view, the government went way overboard when it took guns away from law abiding citizens. Looking through modern history, citizens generally lose their rights after an emergency, and tyrants rise from the ashes of destruction.

History gives us the warning of the Reichstag Fire in Germany. We should never pretend that a republic is not capable of becoming a dictatorship. Tyrants have power over the police and the military. Where is your protection from them? Is it with sticks and stones?

 

My point, obviously not well put, was that even though the NRA people say they won't give up their arms, the incident in LA. proves otherwise.

Honoring God would be fulfilling my duty as a husband and father to protect my family, and since the Constitution and Bill of Rights allows it, it is good. As much as I deplore taking another's life I would do so to protect my family. In a heartbeat.

 

No sticks and stones...Jesus Christ. I never said I don't believe tyranny can exist. I will say this though...so bloody what. Is tyranny bigger than Jesus Christ?

 

My point, obviously not well put, was that even though the NRA people say they won't give up their arms, the incident in LA. proves otherwise.

Honoring God would be fulfilling my duty as a husband and father to protect my family, and since the Constitution and Bill of Rights allows it, it is good. As much as I deplore taking another's life I would do so to protect my family. In a heartbeat. </font>[/QUOTE]hillclimber, I would protect my family as well. but I would not use a gun and kill someone. In the event that I would, I would know that I was wrong. There is no excuse for it, even if you are "protecting your family". I don't know where the Bible tells us to kill in order to protect our family. It does tell us to hate our father and mother (in comparison to our love for Christ). If it does tell us to kill to protect our family, thus honouring God, then I am open to it. Please show me where it says that.

To Bunyon: we may be having a shooting spree in Toronto. You have them over there too. I guess these criminals doing the shooting figured they had the right to bear arms. Maybe they were lunatics and thought they were protecting themselves or their families.

In any case, if they didn't have the guns, would the shooting spree happen? BTW...any sane American with the right to bear arms could one day go nuts and go on a shooting spree, claim the right to bear arms, say his mother beat him up when he was a tyke and he feared for his life cuz some mean guy who looked like his mama made a face at him.