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Son of God vs God, the Son

ICHTHUS

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Yes, One God, but within Him there are 3 separate Persons, as within the Godhead!

This is not right. You cannot say "One God", and then within "Him", as this makes the "Godhead" into a Person, and we have FOUR PERSONS!. One God, as in the BEING (GODHEAD) and Three SEPARATE PERSONS
 

Yeshua1

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This is not right. You cannot say "One God", and then within "Him", as this makes the "Godhead" into a Person, and we have FOUR PERSONS!. One God, as in the BEING (GODHEAD) and Three SEPARATE PERSONS
Yes, One God, One Being, and within Him are 3 separate Persons, the father Jesus and Holy Spirit!
 

ICHTHUS

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Our friend Happy seems to be seeing it as One God called by those 3 names...

Yes, I have posted to her about this, and said I would apologize here if she would tell us whether she believes in what we have discussed here, go what view does she have on the Trinity. No response yet
 

Happy

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="ICHTHUS, post: 2300273, member: 12930"]Hello Happy, I will post a public apology and retraction IF you can post here that you believe in the Teaching of the Holy Bible on the Holy Trinity?

Define the "Holy Trinity", since it seems as if "someone" has a patent or trademark on that term.

Do you fully believe that the Bible Teaches that there is ONE GOD (the Godhead),

One God? Yes

but that there are THREE SEPARATE PERSONS in the GODHEAD,

God is THREE "Separate" Persons? No. God IS ONE God. Separate from Himself? No. A Person?
No. A Spirit? Yes. Always with Himself even when in two separate places? Yes

God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit?

Yes

THREE PERSONS, and ONE GOD?

One God, who is revealed as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, called by numerous names/titles.

When Jesus Christ was on earth, He was NOT also the Father, or the Holy Spirit?

JESUS was revealed on earth AS a Servant, sent from Heaven, in the likeness as a man.
WHILE Jesus was on earth He was revealed, AS the Word of God.
WHILE Jesus was on earth He was revealed, AS the CHRIST.
WHILE Jesus was on earth He was revealed, AS the Savior.
WHILE Jesus was on earth He was revealed, AS the POWER of God.

JESUS revealed to His Disciples, seeing Him, was seeing the Father.
JESUS revealed to His Disciples, knowing Him, is knowing the Father.

Jesus revealed He and His Father are one.

IOW ~ The Father, the Son, the Savior, the Word, the Power (Spirit) OF God IS God, called while He is on earth, "the Son of God, Christ the Lord Jesus".

When the Holy Spirit came at Pentecost, He was NOT the Father or the Son?

The father and son are one. John 10:30 I and my father are one.

Your language shows that you do not hold this position, and therefore I have raised this issue, as it is very damaging to anyone on this forum, as it is NOT what the Holy Bible Teaches.

Yes, the Holy Scripture does teach what I have said.

The Scripture has the written word for any and all to read.

The Understanding is one of two things.....what an earthly man decides, or what is according to God.
I appeal to God Himself for His Understanding, and TRUST what He teaches over what men teach.

As I say, I am ready to apologize and stand corrected if I have been wrong.

You have been taught and are pressing the terms "person" and "separate". I choose to rely on scripture.
God is Spirit. Father and Son are impressed repeatedly in Scripture that they are not separate. And God does not have babies.
 

Happy

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Yes, I have posted to her about this, and said I would apologize here if she would tell us whether she believes in what we have discussed here, go what view does she have on the Trinity. No response yet

Patience. :) I multitask every day. I'm landscaping today and offering cold drinks, grilled food and use of one of my shovels if you wanna come help. lol
 

Happy

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Jesus Christ is the ETERNAL GOD, Yahweh, Who like the Father and Holy Spirit, is ETERNAL, and COEQUAL and COESSENTIAL with BOTH the Father and Holy Spirit. THREE PERSONS, ONE GODHEAD. Not, 1+1+1=3, But, 1x1x1=1

Uh huh....and what do you think I have said that is not the same thing, (except I exclude the use of the terms "person" and "separate")?
 
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