Starbucks

[Calminian]

These companies achieve the American Dream through the American system and the American people. Then they turn on us.

STARBUCKS: BATHROOMS FOR ALL!

SCHULTZ: This is Not a Time For 'Nationalism' or Building 'Walls'...

It's clear Starbucks is only interested in serving half the country. Time to move on.

Some Dunkin' Donuts are popping up in my neck of the woods, so I have a decent drive-thru alternative. I know Black Riffle is an online alternative.

 

[Baptist Believer]

You have a problem with Starbucks letting people use the restroom? How is that 'turning' on us?

 

[Calminian]

Yeah I thought it was so stupid. They basically accused all their workers of racism over some non-customer not getting to use the bathroom. Really? And there was a policemen denied the bathroom and nothing. No sensitivity training, no rallies, nothing. I think they finally apologized.

They are race baiters. Race baiters are almost as bad as racists in my view. They live to divide us.

Larry Elder nailed this issue.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Yeah I thought it was so stupid. They basically accused all their workers of racism over some non-customer not getting to use the bathroom. Really?

I didn't get that from his statement, although he did reference training on racial bias.

Unconscious, non malevolent, racial bias is a real thing and can affect decisions we make when we are uncomfortable with certain situations. People tend to judge on appearances - clothing, skin color, manner of standing, the language they use (persons not speaking English in public makes some people nervous), and signs of wealth/poverty.

I was in a meeting at church last night and we were writing up some goals for the incoming student minister. Our college group is quite ethnically diverse (most diverse than the nearby University), and we want to remind the student minister to be careful, during outreach and evangelism, to not unconsciously strike up conversations only with people who look like him or her, but to be conscious that the Kingdom of God is wildly diverse and the minister should take every opportunity to interact with everyone who is willing.

Over the last 20 years or so, many churches tend to be homogeneous in terms in terms of social standing, employment (white collar vs. blue collar), ethnicity, and income level. In the vast majority of cases, it simply is a reflection of the human tendency to do outreach only to persons who are from a similar place in life. We want to do better than that.

In a similar way, it sounds like the CEO of Starbucks is trying to be better than they have previously been. I have no idea what happened at the Starbucks in question, but I bet the CEO has a better understanding than you or I have.

 

[777]

You have a problem with Starbucks letting people use the restroom? How is that 'turning' on us?

They didn't turn on "us", they never were with "us". I can see some store having a problem with non-payers customers using the restrooms - who did you think cleans up after them, pays for the water and electricity? They do this is Seattle, homeless people will be in there washing up and worse and the customers will be out of luck.

But the CEO doesn't mind, and it's his chain, his call.

 

[Calminian]

With that I agree. They make their own calls, I'll make mine.

 

[HankD]

They didn't turn on "us", they never were with "us". I can see some store having a problem with non-payers customers using the restrooms - who did you think cleans up after them, pays for the water and electricity? They do this is Seattle, homeless people will be in there washing up and worse and the customers will be out of luck.

But the CEO doesn't mind, and it's his chain, his call.

OH Yes, the homeless in Seattle...
I worked in Seattle as a contract software engineer for a large insurance company in the University District..
I would arrive about 6AM. I learned early on to have a pocket of change to hand out to those who slept in the several parking garages in the area.

Some of them would get nasty if you refused to give them a handout.

One young lady on the contract went out to LUNCH and got PUNCHED in the face and had to be taken to a hospital.
The brave attacker ran off with her bag.

 

[Baptist Believer]

They didn't turn on "us", they never were with "us".

Just to clarify, the concept of 'turning on us' was Calminian's perspective. I don't think of businesses as being "us" or "them." And I try not to think of people groups as being "us" or "them" as well.

As far as Starbucks goes, I'm allergic to coffee, so I have no stake in what happens to them.

 

[HankD]

Just to clarify, the concept of 'turning on us' was Calminian's perspective. I don't think of businesses as being "us" or "them." And I try not to think of people groups as being "us" or "them" as well.

As far as Starbucks goes, I'm allergic to coffee, so I have no stake in what happens to them.

Just as a side issue, what are your allergy symptoms with coffee? I feel like road kill sometimes after a cup of coffee.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Just as a side issue, what are your allergy symptoms with coffee? I feel like road kill sometimes after a cup of coffee.

Within about five minutes after consuming coffee or any part of the bean, I experience nausea that lasts up to about four hours. The severity and duration of the symptoms depends upon whether or not I just had a sip of coffee (or a bite of food with coffee, like tiramisu), or if I had a full serving. I love the smell of coffee and like brewing it when I'm the first person in the Sunday School room at church, but I have no desire to drink if because of the symptoms.

I don't know what it is within the coffee that does it, but it is definitely not caffeine. Strangely enough, I also have a similar reaction, although much milder, to tea. If I drink a full glass of tea, I get a little queasy. But if I have a few glasses of tea and I experience the nausea. A doctor suggested that I might be sensitive to tannins and told me to avoid red wine as well. I scarcely touch wine, so that's not a loss.

I hope that's helpful to you.

 

[HankD]

Within about five minutes after consuming coffee or any part of the bean, I experience nausea that lasts up to about four hours. The severity and duration of the symptoms depends upon whether or not I just had a sip of coffee (or a bite of food with coffee, like tiramisu), or if I had a full serving. I love the smell of coffee and like brewing it when I'm the first person in the Sunday School room at church, but I have no desire to drink if because of the symptoms.

I don't know what it is within the coffee that does it, but it is definitely not caffeine. Strangely enough, I also have a similar reaction, although much milder, to tea. If I drink a full glass of tea, I get a little queasy. But if I have a few glasses of tea and I experience the nausea. A doctor suggested that I might be sensitive to tannins and told me to avoid red wine as well. I scarcely touch wine, so that's not a loss.

I hope that's helpful to you.

Thanks BB I might have to quit drinking coffee. don't know why my discomfort with coffee waited until my 70's to show up.

 

[Calminian]

Thanks BB I might have to quit drinking coffee. don't know why my discomfort with coffee waited until my 70's to show up.

After a very stressful visit to the doctor last year, my wife suggested I quit all caffeine. I did it, cold turkey. All caffeine. Tea, coffee, and Diet Coke which I drank a lot. Ended up solving all my medical issues and I lost 28 pounds in about a years time.

I now enjoy coffee about once a week, but usually feel the best when I just stay away from it.

That said, my doctor said some thrive on coffee, some don't. He definitely felt it was the right choice for me.

 

[HankD]

After a very stressful visit to the doctor last year, my wife suggested I quit all caffeine. I did it, cold turkey. All caffeine. Tea, coffee, and Diet Coke which I drank a lot. Ended up solving all my medical issues and I lost 28 pounds in about a years time.

I now enjoy coffee about once a week, but usually feel the best when I just stay away from it.

That said, my doctor said some thrive on coffee, some don't. He definitely felt it was the right choice for me.

Thanks!

 

[church mouse guy]

Starbucks in areas where there is a lot of transients will become even less profitable. Downtown Indianapolis, for example. I don't imagine that many stores will be affected. Starbucks in the suburbs seems to thrive. I think McDonalds has good coffee for the price.

The Islamic Society of North America in Plainfield, IN, a Muslim Brotherhood front, calls me a kaffir, but I am really a de-kaffir.

 

[Calminian]

Starbucks in areas where there is a lot of transients will become even less profitable. Downtown Indianapolis, for example. I don't imagine that many stores will be affected. Starbucks in the suburbs seems to thrive. I think McDonalds has good coffee for the price.

The Islamic Society of North America in Plainfield, IN, a Muslim Brotherhood front, calls me a kaffir, but I am really a de-kaffir.

Starbucks has become a bad influence on the country. They divide us from within by frivolous accusations of racism and divide us from without by advocating open borders.

Some good store-bought bottled coffee alternatives.

Dunkin Donuts (Walmart, etc.), McDonalds (RiteAid, etc.) and 7/11 brand (sold at 7 11).There are some other alternatives as well. I wish Black Riffle would come out with a bottle, but I doubt stores in my city would carry it.

 

[Calminian]

More Starbucks news:

LICED LATTE? STARBUCKS Says Drug Use, Sleeping In Store Unacceptable...

Customers Fear 'Homeless Camps'...

Non-payers hanging around...

 

[777]

"Unacceptable"? The policy is unsustainable unless this SJW CEO can figure out how to solve every urban problem.

Wondering if it will last past the summer, the homeless will flock in to sleep when it gets colder. Then there was the "beaner" thing, this is left on left bickering again.

 

[church mouse guy]

"Unacceptable"? The policy is unsustainable unless this SJW CEO can figure out how to solve every urban problem.

Wondering if it will last past the summer, the homeless will flock in to sleep when it gets colder. Then there was the "beaner" thing, this is left on left bickering again.

I think that Starbucks is foolish to let the mentally ill, the alcoholic, and the drug addicted hang around and use the restrooms. They must be planning on closing their inner-city stores and ones like downtown Indianapolis. The "Beaner" thing is reprehensible--is the left loving or not? They left must decide to open hospitals for the mentally ill because the streets and jails are full of them and it is a disgrace that medical treatment is being withheld from people so obviously mentally ill. One notorious case in Indianapolis involved a mentally-ill man sleeping in the alleys downtown for a couple of years until some teenagers decided to beat him to death one weekend. Starbucks should not be an enabler to this social maladjustment.

 

[Reynolds]

After a very stressful visit to the doctor last year, my wife suggested I quit all caffeine. I did it, cold turkey. All caffeine. Tea, coffee, and Diet Coke which I drank a lot. Ended up solving all my medical issues and I lost 28 pounds in about a years time.

I now enjoy coffee about once a week, but usually feel the best when I just stay away from it.

That said, my doctor said some thrive on coffee, some don't. He definitely felt it was the right choice for me.

I am betting your medical issues had more to do with artificial sweetener than caffeine.

 

[Reynolds]

I think that Starbucks is foolish to let the mentally ill, the alcoholic, and the drug addicted hang around and use the restrooms. They must be planning on closing their inner-city stores and ones like downtown Indianapolis. The "Beaner" thing is reprehensible--is the left loving or not? They left must decide to open hospitals for the mentally ill because the streets and jails are full of them and it is a disgrace that medical treatment is being withheld from people so obviously mentally ill. One notorious case in Indianapolis involved a mentally-ill man sleeping in the alleys downtown for a couple of years until some teenagers decided to beat him to death one weekend. Starbucks should not be an enabler to this social maladjustment.

Yep, it will turn into the homeless hangout.