Student who recorded prof saying Trump election is ‘act of terrorism’ gets suspended

[Revmitchell]

The college student who took video of a human sexuality instructor telling a class that Republican President Donald Trump’s election was an “act of terrorism” got suspended from the California school for one semester.

Caleb O’Neil also must meet with the dean of students of Orange Coast College in Costa Mesa before he’s readmitted and then remain on disciplinary probation for a semester, Campus Reform reported.

In addition, he must write an apology letter to the instructor — Olga Perez Stable-Cox — and a three-page, double-spaced essay on why he recorded the video despite “knowing that it was a violation of the course syllabus” as well as his “thoughts and analysis” regarding why he made it public, among other stipulations, Campus Reform added, citing a disciplinary email.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...-election-is-act-of-terrorism-gets-suspended/

 

[Rolfe]

The student was wrong to break the rules that he agreed to when he enrolled in the school. I do not feel sorry for him.

 

[annsni]

Wow - My daughter uses an app on her iPad to record all of her classes both audio and her own note taking and she can embed the Power Points into it as well. It helps her to study.

As for this, I DO feel sorry for the student because of the absolute attack the professor launched to make students actually afraid. That is wrong. Was it right to video? No but to be honest, I'd support my child if they did because it shows clearly the threat the kids are under with this professor.

 

[777]

Well, the school is arguing that this violated the teacher's privacy rights - maybe when he uploaded the lecture to youtube, but we used to be encouraged to record lectures when I was in school. I can see why she wouldn't want her words spread:

“… white supremacist and a vice president that is one of the most anti-gay humans in this country. And so we are in for a difficult time but again I do believe that we can get past that. Our nation is divided, we have been assaulted, it’s an act of terrorism. One of the most frightening things for me and most people in my life is that the people creating the assault are among us."

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/30348/

She sounds just insane. He'd be better off leaving that place forever.

 

[Baptist Brother]

I support the student. Usually, teachers allow recording. Probably the kid just broke a rule against public airing. Even if the student did break the rule, recording and releasing the teacher's hate speech, I consider to be fair play. And, how binding is a rule on a syllabus?

You don't see Liberals complaining about private tapes of Trump, and others hated by the Left, being made public. Trump, when he made his comment about grabbing women, had a reasonable expectation of privacy.

If this teacher were recorded engaging in inflammatory hate against Obama, it would have been the teacher, not the student, punished.

 

[Rolfe]

I support the student. Usually, teachers allow recording. Probably the kid just broke a rule against public airing. Even if the student did break the rule, recording and releasing the teacher's hate speech, I consider to be fair play. And, how binding is a rule on a syllabus?

You don't see Liberals complaining about private tapes of Trump, and others hated by the Left, being made public. Trump, when he made his comment about grabbing women, had a reasonable expectation of privacy.

If this teacher were recorded engaging in inflammatory hate against Obama, it would have been the teacher, not the student, punished.

Situational ethics.

 

[InTheLight]

I support the student. Usually, teachers allow recording. Probably the kid just broke a rule against public airing. Even if the student did break the rule, recording and releasing the teacher's hate speech, I consider to be fair play.

Interesting. Where do you stand on the CIA and FBI releasing info that shows Trump's associates contacting Russian officials?



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[MennoSota]

I wonder what Diedrich Bonhoeffer or Martin Luther King Jr would have to say about civil disobedience?

 

[StefanM]

I support the student. Usually, teachers allow recording. Probably the kid just broke a rule against public airing. Even if the student did break the rule, recording and releasing the teacher's hate speech, I consider to be fair play. And, how binding is a rule on a syllabus?

(NOTE: I used to be on staff at a college, and I also taught part-time. I do know experiences vary, though.)

In my experience, how binding the syllabus can be depends on the instructor and the dean (and provost or president, if it gets that high).

If the instructor took the time to explicitly state that recording was not allowed, then the dean is likely to back up the instructor as a matter of principle. Unless, of course, the dean has pressure from the administration to back off (influential families, attempts to avoid negative publicity, etc.)---then the dean might side with the student or give him a simple "Don't do that again" talk.

If I were in the dean's shoes, I would have given a lighter reprimand. The student did break the rules, so that needs to be addressed, but I think the punishment was too harsh.

From the instructor's perspective, I can understand why you wouldn't want lectures recorded. These days, things can be taken out of context and edited in ways you cannot predict. Banning recording for all students (except for those with documented disabilities) is a way to preserve some level of academic freedom.

That being said, I don't think what was being protected her was academic freedom. It was intimidation, and I don't think that's proper at all. Therefore, I do think the instructor needs to be reprimanded also.