TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

[Wesley Briggman]

Satanic Temple Recognized as ‘Church’ with Tax-Exempt Status | Breitbart

Reason to eliminate ALL tax exempt non-profits!

Additionally, consider all the other "religious" properties across this nation that citizens are subsidizing with no say about how they operate. TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

 

[Squire Robertsson]

And what makes the ST any different from the Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, or Shintoists other than their verbiage?

 

[Wesley Briggman]

And what makes the ST any different from the Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, or Shintoists other than their verbiage?

Nothing.

, consider all the other "religious" properties across this nation

 

[InTheLight]

And what makes the ST any different from the Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, or Shintoists other than their verbiage?

They do not believe in Satan, they do not worship a diety, they do not believe in the supernatural. They "believe" in rational inquiry, critical thinking, and reasonable agnosticism.


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[Reynolds]

And what makes the ST any different from the Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, or Shintoists other than their verbiage?

I like them a lot better. It's easier for the masses to see who they worship.
I have been ready for tax exempt status for all charities to end. Several of the local churches operate rental properties and do not pay tax on it or its income. Shameful really.

 

[Reynolds]

They do not believe in Satan, they do not worship a diety, they do not believe in the supernatural. They "believe" in rational inquiry, critical thinking, and reasonable agnosticism.


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It depends on which "Satanists" you mention. A large portion most certainly do worship Satan. Even Anton Lavey progressed to a belief in a dark lord which he came to worship. Read some of his last writings.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

They do not believe in Satan, they do not worship a diety, they do not believe in the supernatural. They "believe" in rational inquiry, critical thinking, and reasonable agnosticism.

Not sure who "They" are or what they believe.

The OP is addressing the fact that citizens who have no affiliation with any belief system(bs) or one of many belief systems, is in fact subsidizing all other bs by allowing them to be exempt from certain taxes. The revenue to compensate for these exemptions are passed along, most often as property taxes to all other property owners in the community. While the citizens in the community pay the taxes, these property owners have no say in how the organizations are run. Therefore, taxation without representation!

 

[InTheLight]

It depends on which "Satanists" you mention.

I was quoting verbatim from the linked article in the OP. These are the people that presented their (so-called) beliefs to the IRS.

 

[InTheLight]

Not sure who "They" are or what they believe.

The OP is addressing the fact that citizens who have no affiliation with any belief system(bs) or one of many belief systems, is in fact subsidizing all other bs by allowing them to be exempt from certain taxes. The revenue to compensate for these exemptions are passed along, most often as property taxes to all other property owners in the community. While the citizens in the community pay the taxes, these property owners have no say in how the organizations are run. Therefore, taxation without representation!

Wrong. Property taxes are local taxes, usually at the county level. Tax exempt organizations, usually 501(c)-(3) organizations, don't pay federal income taxes. Citizen taxpayers don't directly subsidize them but only to the extent that these organizations don't pay taxes. We are not compensating them by paying more in property taxes. And it's not like we pay more income taxes because there are tax-exempt organization.

 

[David Kent]

Satanic Temple Recognized as ‘Church’ with Tax-Exempt Status | Breitbart

Reason to eliminate ALL tax exempt non-profits!

Additionally, consider all the other "religious" properties across this nation that citizens are subsidizing with no say about how they operate. TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

In the Roman Empire there was taxation without representation, but Paul did not attack that, but urged Christians to pray for Caesar.

 

[Revmitchell]

Tax exempt status is given to organizations that serve the communities. Churches are not like all other tax exempt organizations because churches are the only organizations that are directly written in the tax code. Churches do not depend on a 501c3 status to be tax exempt. Everyone else does. Churches would have to be written out of the tax code.

 

[Rob_BW]

And what makes the ST any different from the Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, or Shintoists other than their verbiage?

They're really just atheists trying to use current laws to make their point?

The others at least believe in the divine, even if they've got it all wrong.

 

[Reynolds]

Not sure who "They" are or what they believe.

The OP is addressing the fact that citizens who have no affiliation with any belief system(bs) or one of many belief systems, is in fact subsidizing all other bs by allowing them to be exempt from certain taxes. The revenue to compensate for these exemptions are passed along, most often as property taxes to all other property owners in the community. While the citizens in the community pay the taxes, these property owners have no say in how the organizations are run. Therefore, taxation without representation!

No. All citizens are represented at the Local, State, and Federal levels.

 

[Revmitchell]

Not sure who "They" are or what they believe.

The OP is addressing the fact that citizens who have no affiliation with any belief system(bs) or one of many belief systems, is in fact subsidizing all other bs by allowing them to be exempt from certain taxes. The revenue to compensate for these exemptions are passed along, most often as property taxes to all other property owners in the community. While the citizens in the community pay the taxes, these property owners have no say in how the organizations are run. Therefore, taxation without representation!

The Op is ignorant on why organizations are tax exempt. It is therefore wrong.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

You're being too dipolmatic. The others also also worship some form of the demonic. The ST just uses descriptives we are more familiar with.

The others at least believe in the divine, even if they've got it all wrong.

 

[Rob_BW]

You're being too dipolmatic. The others also also worship some form of the demonic. The ST just uses descriptives we are more familiar with.

Yes, but my point was these modern Satanists don't worship anything. They're atheists using the Satanist label merely to shock and offend.

 

[Reynolds]

Wrong. Property taxes are local taxes, usually at the county level. Tax exempt organizations, usually 501(c)-(3) organizations, don't pay federal income taxes. Citizen taxpayers don't directly subsidize them but only to the extent that these organizations don't pay taxes. We are not compensating them by paying more in property taxes. And it's not like we pay more income taxes because there are tax-exempt organization.

It takes my county X dollars per year to operate. It takes the state X dollars per year to operateAll the non-profits who pay no property tax means every other property owner has to pay more tax to meet the required X amount of revenue. Same can be said for fed and state income tax.

 

[Salty]

It takes my county X dollars per year to operate. It takes the state X dollars per year to operateAll the non-profits who pay no property tax means every other property owner has to pay more tax to meet the required X amount of revenue. Same can be said for fed and state income tax.

Do you think that governments should pay property, sales, income, ect, to other levels of govt?

The purpose of tax exempt is that non-profits preform a service for the community.
Now, many non-profits receive funds from the government - so if they had to pay tax -
they would need more funds to operate.

Now, if a non-profit (including a church) is involved in a money making activity - ie rental apts - and they
are making a profit - then yes - they should pay tax on that.

But - suppose - the value of an apartment is $300 - but a person is only charged $100 - should tax
be paid on that "profit"?

 

[Reynolds]

Do you think that governments should pay property, sales, income, ect, to other levels of govt?

The purpose of tax exempt is that non-profits preform a service for the community.
Now, many non-profits receive funds from the government - so if they had to pay tax -
they would need more funds to operate.

Now, if a non-profit (including a church) is involved in a money making activity - ie rental apts - and they
are making a profit - then yes - they should pay tax on that.

But - suppose - the value of an apartment is $300 - but a person is only charged $100 - should tax
be paid on that "profit"?

In some cases govt does pay other govt tax. The Federal govt. compensatesvthe county I live in for thousands of acres it lost tax revenue on when the Corps if Engineers built 2 lakes here.

 

[Revmitchell]

It takes my county X dollars per year to operate. It takes the state X dollars per year to operateAll the non-profits who pay no property tax means every other property owner has to pay more tax to meet the required X amount of revenue. Same can be said for fed and state income tax.

No it doesnt