Featured Tea Party Didn't Fair So Well

I would not read much into that election. Cornyn is conservative, though I have had some differences with him. Right now don't recall any negatives about Sessions!

 

Let's see how much of a "dream" you think it is when your Little Marxist Dictator declares Congress adjourned and orders martial law.

 

That's not going to happen.

 

I agree, but can think of only one reason - the 2nd amendment has not been totally trashed YET!

 

Don't bet on it!

He's got a "pen and a phone ... "

 

Yea I would hate for the Tea Party to be successful. They might work o implement things like a balanced budget. Smaller government and less intrusion in personal lives. They might be concerned with maintaining our constitution.


Yea that would be terrible.

 

oh I believe it is possible that the American people could rise up against the tyranny of this admin. He is certainly pushing people way too far. But Obama is not going to declare martial law.

 

Oh puh-leeze. You've been making some sensible posts of late and then you pull this old conspiracy scenario out of storage. It ruins your credibility. (That and the Dow Jones average is going to hit 6,000 soon.)

 

I would love for this to happen. Unfortunately, recent Tea Party candidates have not been impressive.

 

I agree. The Military would never follow him. Now if he had time to build up that Homeland Security force who knows, but we still do have our guns. I believe that is the very reason the Founding Fathers included the Second Amendment. They simply understood that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

The Tea Party is also going to explain the difference between "fair" and "fare".

 

Not sure that I agree with you on this one, g2c:
As many will probably attest, I am one of the liberals on this board (some have claimed I am one of the biggest liberals). But I, for one, applaud the Tea Party.

Don't get me wrong: I am very much a liberal, but a TRUE liberal. As we have seen (in dramatic fashion the past few years), there are many in government who claim to be liberal, and are not liberal at all. They are AUTHORITARIANS. There is a big difference. A TRUE liberal abhors any limits to free speech. A TRUE liberal eschews the notion of gun control. A TRUE liberal loves the concept of liberty. There is nothing liberal about authoritarianism, despite any claims to the contrary.

This is much the same thing in the GOP. Many in the GOP claim to be CONSERVATIVE, but they are not - they are elitists and corporatists (i.e. this whole bizarre infatuation with Ayn Rand and her Objectivism). Many TRUE conservatives have had enough, and have started the Tea Party movement as a means of taking back the party.

Now, I may not subscribe to all of their beliefs (especially on social issues), but more and more I find that - at their core - they share my love for liberty and fiscal responsibility. They see the lack of consistency with respect to immigration as less of a racial or xenophobic issue and more of a rather successful attempt at creating a permanent underclass to be exploited. They understand that healthcare reform was the legalization of an oligopoly. They are beginning to understand that endless wars translate to endless profits. They are doing what I would love to see the true liberals do: take back the term liberal, and push out this authoritarianism from the Democratic Party.

Given this, I could never ridicule a group of people who are fighting back. I CAN, however, ridicule the fake Tea Partyers who are seemingly attempting to neutralize the movement (i.e. Sarah Palin and in some ways Newt Gingrich). But that is another topic of discussion. If the TRUE liberals and TRUE conservatives ever discover these similarities and unite to work for these common goals, they could change history.

To the Tea Partyers, I sincerely hope that you "do not go gentle into that good night" - to usurp Dylan Thomas (http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15377 - copyright information can be found here).
Losing a battle does not mean you have lost the war.

Regards g2c, hope you and yours are well,
BiR

 

First time I have agreed with you. (with the exception of the weird idea that Palin is trying to neutralize the movement)


Contrary to the false claims by Pelosi and company the Tea Party is not just a small section of the Republican Party. It is made up of repubs, dems, libs etc.

 

It's already happening. It's just not as overt as he says.

 

Ah, but notice I used the word "seemingly."

IMO, Palin is wholly disingenuous. She seemingly goes out of her way to look foolish and doesn't really do anything but exploit this newfound media attention to make money (of course, Bristol took it to the next level). Notice that when things got tough for her in Alaska, she stepped down. Rather than fight those who were allegedly smearing her good name, she did the old cut and run.

Read her quotes here:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/a/palinisms.htm

Do you really think this isn't deliberate?


Besides, you don't really think John McCain would have picked her as a running mate if she were a true tea partyer, do you? Who wants to be upstaged as POTUS? If she were a bona fide Tea Partyer, do you really think she would be afforded all this media attention? How many true Tea Partyers have to struggle to get media attention drawn to the issues?

You are absolutely right on this point, and if the liberals and Tea Partyers focus on common ground, there will be a massive shift towards real liberty. I just hope it isn't too late.

Regards,
BiR

 

I don't know a person who thinks Sarah Palin is a good conservative role model. I certainly don't. Ask any original Tea Partier what they think of her support for the War on Terror, or the Patriot Act.

But Mitch is right, despite the disingenuous news reporting against them, the Tea Party folks are a very diverse group of folks.