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The Absolute Sovereignty of God? Where did this doctrine come from?

Craigbythesea

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The Absolute Sovereignty of God? Where did this doctrine come from?

The answer is very well known to those Christians who are abreast of the history of Christian doctrine. The doctrine came into the church as part of the package of early reformed theology. Prior to the 16th century, we find no such doctrine. To Jewish people throughout the history of Judaism, such a doctrine would be seen as thoroughly opposed by the Tanakh. Since the occurrence of the doctrine in some Christian circles, it has been thoroughly rejected by our Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Episcopalian, Anglican, Lutheran, Methodist, and Pentecostal churches, as well as the Church of the Nazarene, Brethren Churches, Mennonite churches, etc.
 

David Lamb

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The Absolute Sovereignty of God? Where did this doctrine come from?

The answer is very well known to those Christians who are abreast of the history of Christian doctrine. The doctrine came into the church as part of the package of early reformed theology. Prior to the 16th century, we find no such doctrine. To Jewish people throughout the history of Judaism, such a doctrine would be seen as thoroughly opposed by the Tanakh. Since the occurrence of the doctrine in some Christian circles, it has been thoroughly rejected by our Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Episcopalian, Anglican, Lutheran, Methodist, and Pentecostal churches, as well as the Church of the Nazarene, Brethren Churches, Mennonite churches, etc.
But God is almighty. He is called King of kings:

“which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords,” (1Ti 6:15 NKJV)

He does everything that He wishes:

“9 Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done, Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure,’ 11 Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it.” (Isa 46:9-11 NKJV)

So in what way is He not absolutely sovereign?
 

Silverhair

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But God is almighty. He is called King of kings:

“which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords,” (1Ti 6:15 NKJV)

He does everything that He wishes:

“9 Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done, Saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure,’ 11 Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it.” (Isa 46:9-11 NKJV)

So in what way is He not absolutely sovereign?

@David Lamb it is not a question of whether God is sovereign, He is, it is why do those of the C/R view require the word "absolute" stuck in front of sovereign?

Do you think there is a difference between sovereign and absolute sovereign, does adding the word make God more sovereign?
 
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