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The Book of Life

KenH

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Yet another taint so post from the doctrine that is without form and void.

If God chose individuals before creation, then the inspired author of 1 Peter 2:9-10 was wrong to say once we were not a people, once we had not obtained mercy. But if you believe God's word, then Ephesians 1:4 refers to being chosen corporately, when God chose Logos individually to be His Redeemer, His Lamb of God, He chose all those that might be redeemed corporately, since you do not choose a Redeemer without a plan to redeem.

Next, we get Revelation 13:8 which says names not written in the book since the foundation of the word, with the implication other names were written in the book since the foundation of the world. If the bogus view of Calvinism were correct, scripture would not say once we had not been chosen to be a people, and would say names were not written, implying other names were written, before rather than since creation.

How many other verses must be rewritten because they preclude the Calvinist mutilation of Ephesians 1:4? Lets see, first we have 1 Peter 2:9-10, Revelation 13:8, Revelation 17:8, and then James 2:5, (folks chosen who were poor to the world but rich in faith) 1 Corinthians 1:26-28 (folks chosen in the flesh and of the world).

A corporately chosen group is composed of a type of people (believers whose faith has been credited by God as righteousness) rather than foreseen individuals before they were "of the world."

Van, you are now up to number 4 in repeating basically the same post of false teaching. Care to go for number 5?
 

Van

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Van, you are now up to number 4 in repeating basically the same post of false teaching. Care to go for number 5?
You are addressing me and not the topic. That seems to be the extent of your response.

Did you explain how we could be "not a people" yet be a chosen people? Nope

Did you explain why names are not written into the Lamb's book of life before the foundation of the world? Nope

Did you acknowledge a corporately chosen group is composed of a generic type of people? Nope

All you seem to know how to do is acknowledge my response to your taint so posts.
 

KenH

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You are addressing me and not the topic. That seems to be the extent of your response.

I answered you in post #3 and post #8 and post #10 and post #11 and post #12 and post #13 and post #17 above.
 

Van

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Running from the discussion shouting I won, I won, is standard behavior for those out of ammunition.

Many confuse the Lamb's Book of Life, in which the names are written of those "in Christ" with the Book of the Living, mentioned in the OT.

The prattle goes like this, everyone's name starts out in the book and then is erased, rather than no one's name is in the book until they are placed into Christ.

Just as Jesus promises to not cast anyone out, John 6:37, He promises never to erase any name once written, Revelation 3:5. If you go before the Great White Throne Judgment, and your name is not found in the Lamb's book of Life, you will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.
 

KenH

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Running from the discussion shouting I won, I won, is standard behavior for those out of ammunition.

In case you missed my post # 23 above, I wrote: I answered you in post #3 and post #8 and post #10 and post #11 and post #12 and post #13 and post #17 above.
 

Van

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Running from the discussion shouting I won, I won, is standard behavior for those out of ammunition.

Many confuse the Lamb's Book of Life, in which the names are written of those "in Christ" with the Book of the Living, mentioned in the OT.

The prattle goes like this, everyone's name starts out in the book and then is erased, rather than no one's name is in the book until they are placed into Christ.

Just as Jesus promises to not cast anyone out, John 6:37, He promises never to erase any name once written, Revelation 3:5. If you go before the Great White Throne Judgment, and your name is not found in the Lamb's book of Life, you will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.
The same ploy of claiming victory while running from debate is used with impunity.
 

KenH

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The same ploy of claiming victory while running from debate is used with impunity.

I am not running away, Van. I have responded to you with Biblical truth. If you do wish to engage with it, then please leave this thread.
 

Van

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Obviously, he has an indefensible position and, apparently, is reluctant to admit it.
On and on false teachers attack opponents and then claim they have addressed the biblical doctrine in dispute.

Many confuse the Lamb's Book of Life, in which the names are written of those "in Christ" with the Book of the Living, mentioned in the OT.

The prattle goes like this, everyone's name starts out in the book and then is erased, rather than no one's name is in the book until they are placed into Christ.

Just as Jesus promises to not cast anyone out, John 6:37, He promises never to erase any name once written, Revelation 3:5. If you go before the Great White Throne Judgment, and your name is not found in the Lamb's book of Life, you will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.
 
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