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The brother of Christ, ungodly, and body of Moses.

Alex2165

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THE BROTHER OF JESUS CHRIST​

Jude 1.1
Most likely Jude, the author of this Letter is the one of the brothers of Jesus Christ. In total Jesus have four brothers and unknown number of sisters.

Matthew 13.55-56
55. "Is not this the carpenter's Son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers James, and Joseph (Joses. Mark 6.3), and Simon, and Judas. (Matthew 12.46).
56. And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this Man get all these things?" (Mark 6.3).

James, the brother of Jesus. James is first mentioned as the oldest of Jesus' four younger brothers (Matthew 13.55) (Mark 6.3).
The Gospels revealed that Jesus' brothers adopted a skeptical attitude toward His ministry (Matthew 12.46-50) (Mark 3.31-35) (Luke 8.19-21) (John 7.3-5-10).
James apparently held the same attitude, because his name appears in no list of the Apostles, nor is he mentioned elsewhere in the Gospels.

After Jesus' crucifixion, however, James became a believer. Paul indicated that James was a witness to the resurrection of Jesus (1Corinthians 15.7).
Paul called James an Apostle (Galatians 1.19), though like himself, not one of the original Twelve (1Corinthians 15.5.7).
In the Book of Acts, James emerges as the leader of the church in Jerusalem. His brothers became believers (Acts 1.13-14) and undertook missionary travels (1Corinthians 9.5) (Jude 1.1).
But James considered it his calling to oversee the church in Jerusalem (Galatians 2.9). He advocated respect for the Jewish Law (Acts 21.18-25), but he did not use it as a weapon against Gentiles.
Paul indicated that James endorsed his ministry to the Gentiles (Galatians 2.1-10). Both Paul and Acts portray a James who was personally devoted to Jewish nation but flexible enough to modify it to admit non-Jews into Christian fellowship.
This James is probably the author of the Epistle of James in the New Testament.

THE UNGODLY​

Jude 1.4.7-8.10-16.18-19
Almost every Book of the Bible have warnings about ungodly and sinners and their impact on the life of other people. Particularly the ungodly is very dangerous for the church of Christ with their deceit, false doctrines, made up traditions, and misinterpretation of the Bible. They are the masters of disguise pretended to be godly and devoted to Christ, but in reality, they are wolves in sheep skin pretended to be one of us (Jeremiah 23.1) (Ezekiel 34.1-31) (John 10.1-16) (1Peter 5.1-4) (Acts 20.28-30).
For this reason, it has been written.
2Corinthians 11.14-15
14. "And no wonder, even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15. Therefore, it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their deeds."

THE BODY OF MOSES​

Jude 1.9
Deuteronomy 34.5-8

5. "So Moses, the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the Word of the Lord.
6.And *He buried him in the valley, in the land of Moab, **opposite Beth-peor, but ***no man knows burial place to this day.

~ 6. *He buried him. That is, GOD buried Moses. But the Hebrew construction could also be understood as “someone buried him,” meaning “he was buried.” (In this case most likely by Joshua. A.G). This would suggest that the burial place was once known and later forgotten.

**Near Beth-peor. Its location is not certain; it was somewhere east of Jericho (Deuteronomy 3.29).
The Torah. A Modern Commentary. Edited by W. Gunther Plaut.

~6. ***No one knows his burial place. Because GOD buried him. Many commentators have conjectured that the gravesite of Moses was concealed to prevent from turning it into a shrine and using it as a location for a cult of Moses worship.
Etz Hayim. Torah and Commentary.


7. Although Moses was *one hundred and twenty years old when he died, his eye was not dim, nor his vigor abated.

~ 7. *A hundred and twenty years old. (Deuteronomy 31.2). Moses had been 80 years old at the time of the Exodus (Exodus 7.7).

The Torah. A Modern Commentary. Edited by W. Gunther Plaut.

~ 7. *Hundred and twenty years old. Moses died 40 years after the Exodus, which took place when he was 80 (Exodus 7.7).
Etz Hayim. Torah and Commentary.


MOURNING FOR MOSES.​

8. So, the sons of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab *thirty days, then the days of weeping and mourning for Moses came to the end."

~8. *Thirty days. As was done for Aaron; Numbers 20.29. The period has remained significant in Jewish practices.

The Torah. A Modern Commentary. Edited by W. Gunther Plaut.

~ 8. *Month's time. A customary period of mourning also observed for Aaron and Moses (Numbers 20.29) (Deuteronomy 34.8), and part of Jewish mourning practice to this day.

Etz Hayim. Torah and Commentary. (Copied from Deuteronomy 21.13).

~ 5-8. By secretly burying Moses Himself, GOD avoided any possibility of Israel later making a shrine out of Moses' burial place. This also thwarted the Devil, because he later had s dispute with Michael, the archangel, concerning the body of Moses (Jude 9).

Moses died when he was 120 years old, and his life falls neatly into three periods of 40 years each. The first 40 years were spent in Egypt as a member of pharaoh's household (Acts 7.21-23). Next, he lived a private family life in the land of Midian (Acts 7.29-30). Finally, he lived 40 years from GOD'S call at the burning bush until his death.
KSB, Spiros Zodhiates. P-288.



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Oseas3

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~ 5-8. By secretly burying Moses Himself, GOD avoided any possibility of Israel later making a shrine out of Moses' burial place. This also thwarted the Devil, because he later had s dispute with Michael, the archangel, concerning the body of Moses (Jude 9).
Just to clarify: the Body of Moses was the people of Israel, just as the Body of Jesus is the Church. Satan constantly opposed Moses, causing the people to sin against the Lord throughout the entire journey from Egypt until leadership was handed over to Joshua; likewise, Satan has always opposed JESUS and His people—His Church, His body—and still continues to do so sowing his demonic tares and apostasies, and not a few have fallen into his traps and terrible wiles. May God guard and deliver us.
 

David Lamb

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Just to clarify: the Body of Moses was the people of Israel, just as the Body of Jesus is the Church. Satan constantly opposed Moses, causing the people to sin against the Lord throughout the entire journey from Egypt until leadership was handed over to Joshua; likewise, Satan has always opposed JESUS and His people—His Church, His body—and still continues to do so sowing his demonic tares and apostasies, and not a few have fallen into his traps and terrible wiles. May God guard and deliver us.
Sorry, but where in the Bible do we read of Israel being referred to as "the body of Moses?" The only verse I can find that includes both the word "body" and the word "Moses" is Jude verse 9. I agree of course that the church is called the body of Christ in Scripture.
 

Oseas3

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Sorry, but where in the Bible do we read of Israel being referred to as "the body of Moses?" The only verse I can find that includes both the word "body" and the word "Moses" is Jude verse 9. I agree of course that the church is called the body of Christ in Scripture.
Have you never read, David? ->This is Moses, that was in the Church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with the fathers: it is he who received the lively oracles to give unto the people of Israel. When? Exodus chapter 19.

Exodus 20:
18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

20 And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.

21 And the people stood afar off,
and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.

22 And the Lord said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.

Have you never read, David? ->This is Moses, that was in the Church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with the fathers: it is he who received the lively oracles to give unto the people of Israel.

The Body of Moses was the people of Israel,
but they rejected Moses, yes, the people rejected Moses driven by Satan that opposed Moses, and Aaron, make gods to go before them, and they said:->as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt, we know not what is become of him.

Yes, to Moses the fathers do not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt being them incited by Satan. Satan constantly opposed Moses, causing the people to sin against the Lord throughout the entire journey from Egypt until leadership was handed over to Joshua.


Well, you know that "the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of GOD: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"->1Corinthians 2:14.

JUDE 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the Devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

GOD BLESS

P.S. Just out of curiosity: JESUS has genealogy, but Michael has not. Why?
 

David Lamb

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Have you never read, David? ->This is Moses, that was in the Church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with the fathers: it is he who received the lively oracles to give unto the people of Israel. When? Exodus chapter 19.

Exodus 20:
18 And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

20 And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.

21 And the people stood afar off,
and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was.

22 And the Lord said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.


Have you never read, David? ->This is Moses, that was in the Church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with the fathers: it is he who received the lively oracles to give unto the people of Israel.

The Body of Moses was the people of Israel,
but they rejected Moses, yes, the people rejected Moses driven by Satan that opposed Moses, and Aaron, make gods to go before them, and they said:->as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt, we know not what is become of him.

Yes, to Moses the fathers do not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt being them incited by Satan. Satan constantly opposed Moses, causing the people to sin against the Lord throughout the entire journey from Egypt until leadership was handed over to Joshua.


Well, you know that "the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of GOD: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"->1Corinthians 2:14.

JUDE 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the Devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

GOD BLESS

P.S. Just out of
The phrase "church in the wilderness" occurs just once in the Bible, and only, as far is I can see, in the KJV.

Act 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

It doesn't say that Moses (or the body of Moses) was the church in the wilderness, but that Moses was in the church in the wilderness.

As for your question about genealogy, Jesus has one because as far as His humanity was concerned, He had an ancestry. Michael, an angel, did not.
 

Oseas3

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The phrase "church in the wilderness" occurs just once in the Bible, and only, as far is I can see, in the KJV.

Act 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

It doesn't say that Moses (or the body of Moses) was the church in the wilderness, but that Moses was in the church in the wilderness.

As for your question about genealogy, Jesus has one because as far as His humanity was concerned, He had an ancestry. Michael, an angel, did not.
As I said above, to clarify, the Body of Moses was the people of Israel, the Church, Church of the firstborn(Hebrews 12:23, just as the Body of JESUS is the Church. Satan constantly opposed Moses, causing the people to sin against the Lord throughout the entire journey from Egypt until leadership was handed over to Joshua; likewise, Satan has always opposed JESUS and His people—His Church, His body—and still continues to do so sowing his demonic tares and apostasies, and not a few have fallen into his traps and terrible wiles. May God guard and deliver us.
 

David Lamb

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As I said above, to clarify, the Body of Moses was the people of Israel, the Church, Church of the firstborn(Hebrews 12:23, just as the Body of JESUS is the Church. Satan constantly opposed Moses, causing the people to sin against the Lord throughout the entire journey from Egypt until leadership was handed over to Joshua; likewise, Satan has always opposed JESUS and His people—His Church, His body—and still continues to do so sowing his demonic tares and apostasies, and not a few have fallen into his traps and terrible wiles. May God guard and deliver us.
Yes, I understand that that is what you said. My question is: Where in the Bible are we told that the body of Moses was the people of Israel? As I indicated before, the only verse in the whole bible that mentions the body of Moses is:

NKJV Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"

I agree, as I have already, that the church is the body of Christ.
 

Oseas3

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Yes, I understand that that is what you said. My question is: Where in the Bible are we told that the body of Moses was the people of Israel? As I indicated before, the only verse in the whole bible that mentions the body of Moses is:

NKJV Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"

I agree, as I have already, that the church is the body of Christ.
The devil disputed what body? Jude Apostle was not, and is not, speaking of the physical body of Moses as you imagine, by no manner of means. The Lord was privately with Moses to show him the promised land. Then He said to Moses: -> Deuterornomy 34:1-5: “This is the land of which I swore to give Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, saying, ‘I will give it to your descendants.’ I have caused you to see it with your eyes, but you shall not cross over there.”
So Moses the servant of the Lord died...And the Lord alone buried the body of Moses and no one, yes, NO ONE KNOWS his grave to this current day, -> (Satan was not beside the Lord to see the burial of Moses' body, much less to contend with the Lord about the deceased's body.->( except in your incomprehensible literal imagination. The letter kills, it's terrible),

Regarding Israel, I would not that you should be ignorant how that ALL were baptized into Moses.

Moses made the Candlestick, symbol of the Church of Israel, according to the design that the Lord had shown him. But with many of them GOD was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. Even Moses himself who was in the desert with the Church of Israel, he said to the people they sacrificed to demons, not to GOD. And Michael, the archangel, when contending with the Devil he disputed about the body of Moses in the wilderness (not in the mount Nebo to the top of Pisgah), but Michael durst not bring against the devil him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee, as says Jude Apostle.

Moses was in the wilderness with the angel (which of the angels? Michael, of course. The angel that contended with the Devil in the Church of Israel, is the same who spoke to Moses on Mount Sina).

And now? Now Michael the archangel must contend with the Devil to dispute about the BODY of Christ. ->Revelation 12:7-17, take a look. I highlight verses 6 to 12, as follow:->
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of GOD, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. ->(Daniel 12:10-12, take a look).

7 And there was war in heaven ( heaven? Ephesians 1:3-10, and so on) Michael and his angels fought against the Dragon(see verse 9); and the Dragon fought and his angels,->(messengers)

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.->(Ephesians 1:3-10)

9 And the great Dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels ->(messengers) were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven(Ephesians 1:3-10), NOW is come salvation, and strength, and the Kingdom of our GOD->(Revelation 11:15-18, take a look), and the Power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our GOD day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the BLOOD of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth(Israel) and of the sea!(Gentile peoples of all tongues) for the Devil->(the false messiah of the Jews->John 5:43-47, a false lamb, the dragon-Revelation 13:11) is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Be prepared or else get ready
 
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