The Calvinist Way Of "Interpreting" The Bible

[timothy27]

Mike if you read the entire post, I was making a response to the OP, I am willing to admit that both sides do their fair share of "Baby whining" but you have just proved my point, I have found that the Arminiasts here fail to read the entire post and pick certain areas to focus on, example in case your argument against Larry about word order in Acts, you said he "contradicts" because of what one of his posts said yet you failed to read the entire post and see that he did not.

I am not arguing that Calvinists are better than anyone else, we have our fair share of cut and paste posters on this board, but most of the Calvinist believers I have read on this site have not reverted to obvoiusly blatant misrepresentaions and name calling. If you would have read the entire post you would have seen me say this to Timtoolman about 3 or 4 posts previous.

And by the way I do know what I am talking about, I grew up believeing the things Arminiasts believe and used to defend them heartily, went to many Baptist free-will preaching churches, and they all boil down to one thing, a man-centered gospel.

 

[timothy27]

So Ray if you believe that what God desires happens then why are all people not saved? How can Revelations be the future if the 1 Tim. verses are true? (Let's watch as the so-called Calvinist, shake and dodge tactic unfolds here from the other side.)

If you have kids, have you ever punished them? Was your desire to inflict pain on them? I hope not, yet you still willed the spanking grounding etc.

 

[ILUVLIGHT]

Timothy27;

Mike if you read the entire post, I was making a response to the OP

Then you should say what you're talking about in the post.
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I am not arguing that Calvinists are better than anyone else, we have our fair share of cut and paste posters on this board, but most of the Calvinist believers I have read on this site have not reverted to obvoiusly blatant misrepresentaions and name calling.

Then you haven't read every post.

You also misinterpreted what Larry and I was even talking about. If you had read the same verse in the Greek new testament you would have seen that it was arranged just as I said.

Greek Interlinear

akouonta de ta eqnh ecairon kai edoxazon
And hearing the nations rejoiced and gloriifed


ton logon tou kuriou, kai episteusan
the word of the Lord, and believed


osoi hsan tetagmenoi eiV zwhn aiwnion:
as many as were having been disposed to life eternal

Look at it real close tell me what you see.
In The Light Of Christ;
Mike

 

[Pastor Larry]

Mike,

As you have been repeatedly told, no one is arguing the order of the words in the verse. The point is the grammar of the verse, the verb tenses or aspects as they are sometimes called. On that, you clearly are wrong. Sorry.

You need to learn at leasta little Greek, or listen to those who have.

 

[TomMann]

Originally posted by qwerty:
I have done some study on the attributes of God (Who is Father, Son -the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit).

I have never read what Calvinists say specifically about the attributes of God.

Perhaps one of the best sources:

http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Attributes/attributes.htm

1. The Solitariness of God
2. The Decrees of God
3. The Knowledge of God
4. The Foreknowledge of God
5. The Supremacy of God
6. The Sovereignty of God
7. The Immutability of God
8. The Holiness of God
9. The Power of God
10. The Faithfulness of God
11. The Goodness of God
12. The Patience of God
13. The Grace of God
14. The Mercy of God
15. The Love of God
16. The Wrath of God
17. The Contemplation of God

I think Author Pink gives a fair representation of a lot of our views.....

 

[2BHizown]

AMEN, GREAT POST, Tom Mann! Blessings!!

 

[Brandon C. Jones]

Qwerty, I would highly recommend John Feinberg's "No One Like Him" on the subject of theology proper from a Calvinistic perspective (although I doubt Arminians would disagree with his treatment of God's attributes, however, the section on God's providence is another story).

BJ

 

[Ray Berrian]

Tom Mann,

Does Dr. A.W. Pink have anything to say about the Attribute of the Lord's Justice?

 

[Mark Osgatharp]

Originally posted by whatever:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Mark Osgatharp:
The Calvinists argue that man's will plays no part in salvation.

Oops, you've jumped the track already. This statement is not true, which renders the rest of your post irrelevant. </font>[/QUOTE]A prime example of the verbal gymnastics in which Calvinists indulge.

Mark Osgatharp

 

[TomMann]

Originally posted by Ray Berrian:
Tom Mann,

Does Dr. A.W. Pink have anything to say about the Attribute of the Lord's Justice?

Yes, he does....

http://www.eternallifeministries.org/awp_justice.htm

 

[whatever]

Originally posted by Mark Osgatharp:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by whatever:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Mark Osgatharp:
The Calvinists argue that man's will plays no part in salvation.

Oops, you've jumped the track already. This statement is not true, which renders the rest of your post irrelevant. </font>[/QUOTE]A prime example of the verbal gymnastics in which Calvinists indulge.

Mark Osgatharp </font>[/QUOTE]I don't suppose you would care to elaborate? God releases the will from bondage to sin so that the will follows after Him. How can the will play no part in that? There's no verbal gymnastics going on here.