The cost of war

Much grimmer statistics:


www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/statistics.htm

 

Considering that this next statistic was only for one single day, this would have been even more grim for the Lindbergh anti-war isolationists:

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Joseph Botwinick

 

First, Japan declared war and attacked us . . . or was it the other way around? A telegraph glitch.

Second, the people who complain about other people dying are usually the same people who complain about overpopulation.

Third, those who invoke the word "cost" should remember that a balance sheet has two sides. The war is making billions for Bush's friends. Be a Bush friend and buy oil stock.

 

This is in reference to Ken's and Joseph's WWII statistics on the cost of war. Billwald's point is that WWII was not a voluntary war for the US as the Japanese struck first (soon afterwards Germany declared war on the US) while Bush's invasion & occupation of Iraq was a calculated decision with war & oil profits figuring heavily in the calculation.

Heal thyself.

 

Germany did not attack us at Pearl Harbour. Iraq did not attack us on 9-11 (for that matter, neither did Afganistan). This is the thing many liberals forget in their hatred of Bush. The Taliban and Al-Quaeda attacked us on 9-11. Now, if you are really naieve enough to believe that this terror group was contained in Afganistan, you really are deluded.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Perhaps the question should be the other way around. What would be the cost of not going to war in 1939?

Cheers,

Jim

 

We can never balance the loss of lives with any war, but sadly, the loss of lives is the price of war.

If it is my son or daughter, one life is too many. On the other hand, what are we willing to pay for freedom. 1939-45 had to do with freedom. First for the Poles and Eastern Europe, then for the Jews, then for a very own soil. These things always escalate, and eventually strike home.

We are at war with more than a few hoodlums. We are at war with an ideology, namely Islamic fundamentalism. Let's not kid ourselves. I did not agree with invading a sovereign country because the tyrant of Iraq was keeping relative peace in the Middle East with his heavy hand of power. We have now dispersed the enemy and effectively armed him.
We are taking casualties because we insist on treating the enemy with human kindness. Had we done this in Korea, we, in Canada, would have suffered more than 500 casualties.
Are we in this war to win? If so, perhaps we had better start fighting that way.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Fourth, drunk drivers kill many more Americans than war has.

 

I disagree that invading Iraq has made the enemy more powerful. I agree that it is the timid politically correct way in which we have conducted this war under the treasonous microscope of the liberals in media that has emboldened the enemy.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Al Qaida is estimated by our own CIA to be three times the size it was before we attacked Iraq, and has expanded its base of operations. The Taliban is agitating in Afghanistan, our hand-picked president there is about to be toppled, along with the "democratically elected" government, and Iran, North Korea, Hezbollah and Hamas have all been agressively expanding their positions knowing that the US is tied down in Iraq.

All that "liberals in the media weakening us" rhetoric is just a bunch of baloney. The incompetence of this president and his cronies must be balanced somehow, or we'll wind up in a predominantly hispanic country with more debt than there is money in the world to pay it.

 

Baloney!

Can you prove that Al qaeda would not have grown fivefold if we had not entered Iraq? Of course not.

If we had not entered Afghanistan, the Taliban would still be in complete control instead of just "agitating".

Are you saying Hamas and Hezbollah would not have continued their murdering ways if we had not entered Iraq? How naive.

Is Iran bolder since we entered Iraq? Perhaps. Can you say for certain that they would not have taken all the steps they have taken if we had not entered Iraq? Of course not.

Do you think it makes Iran just a tiny bit nervous having having American military forces right next door? Absolutely.

Are you really advocating that we do absolutely nothing about terrorism except close the border with Mexico? Sounds like it.

Stop whining and let's hear some solutions. You sound just like most liberals/democrats.

Complain and second guess, but never step forward with a solution.

 

dui deaths

http://www.madd.org/stats/11087