The Days of Noah & Lot

[ShotGunWillie]

We are given an idea of what to expect prior to the return of Christ and before the beginning of the Tribulation:

Jesus said, as in the Days of Noah and as in the Days of Lot.

What is so significant about their time and what about their time should be like the time we are living in today?

 

[blackbird]

Just enough time to post a sentenc or two, SGW

But

The Bible calls Noah ----- "that preacher of righteousness"

and the Bible calls Lot ---- "that righteous man"

Think about the preaching of the "preacher of righteousness"

For 120 years-------the preaching of repentance unto salvation was preached------but after one hundred twenty years----only 8 repented and received the preaching of the gospel "through that ark"(emphasis is mine"

The world basically ignored the preacher------as well as the preaching of impending judgment---the world that "was then" and the world that "now is" is NOT receptive of the "world that is to come"-----and its comeing!!!

More later

 

[jofuss]

1) only a remnant (genuine children of God) are saved.

2) no secret rapture

3) everyone will see Jesus' second coming

4) the wicked are destroyed at the second coming while the righteous are saved

... just like the Days of Noe and Lot!

 

[HankD]

1) only a remnant (genuine children of God) are saved.

2) no secret rapture

3) everyone will see Jesus' second coming

4) the wicked are destroyed at the second coming while the righteous are saved

... just like the Days of Noe and Lot!

Matthew 24

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.​

"And they knew not until the flood came".​

Noah was a preacher of righeousness so he must have warned the people in his preaching.​

So, IMO, it's not so much a secret rapture jofuss but an unexpected happening which the world doesn't believe anyway.​

The world will not know what has happened until the children of God are taken out of the world and not found and those things in the tribulation start coming to pass. Even then they will run after the beast and the false prophet as the solution to the global disasters.​

Its a similar situation with Lot, he warned his in-laws.​

"But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law".​

Luke 17
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.​

Only the few chosen of God, they that had believed what He said, escaped.​

After we are gone then the wrath of God begins.​

Most dispensationalists view the "rapture" as the first phase of the bodily return of Jesus Christ to the earth. But there are several opinions concerning the sequence of events (Premil, midtrib, posttrib, etc...).
Partial preterists fit in somewhat with these dispensational views (imo).​

Then there are those full preterists who attribute all the prophecies of the second coming to the destruction of Jerusalem in AD70 by Titus.

There are variations in all views.

There is an abundance of information here at the BB. I believe its good to know them all to some extent.

HankD​

 

[Thinkingstuff]

As the tyme of Noe was so lyke wyse shall the cominge of ye sonne of man be.
38 For as in ye dayes before ye floud: they dyd eate and drynke mary and were maried eve vnto ye daye that Noe entred into the shyppe
39 and knewe of nothynge tyll the floude came and toke them all awaye. So shall also the commynge of the sonne of man be.
40 Then two shalbe in the feldes the one shalbe receaved and the other shalbe refused
41 two shalbe gryndinge at ye myll: ye oue shalbe receaved and ye other shalbe refused.
42 Wake therfore because ye knowe not what houre youre master wyll come.

It seems pretty clear here in what manner the days will be like Noe.

And whan the LORde sawe yt the wekednesse of man was encreased apon the erth and that all the ymaginacion and toughtes of his hert was only evell continually
6 he repented that he had made man apon the erth and sorowed in his hert.
7 And sayd: I wyll destroy mankynde which I haue made fro of the face of the erth: both man beast worme and foule of the ayre for it repeteth me that I haue made them.
8 But yet Noe found grace in the syghte of the LORde.

Debauchery seems to be the rule of the day

And there came .ij. angells to Sodome at euen. And Lot satt at the gate of the cyte. And Lot sawe the and rose vp agaynst them and he bowed hym selfe to he grounde with his face.
2 And he sayde: Se lordes turne in I praye you in to youre servauntes house and tary all nyghte and wash youre fete and ryse vp early and go on youre wayes. And they sayde: nay but we will byde in the streates all nyghte.
3 And he copelled them excedyngly. And they turned in vnto hym and entred in to his house and he made them a feaste and dyd bake swete cakes and they ate.
4 But before they went to rest the men of the cyte of Sodome compassed the house rownde aboute both olde and yonge all the people from all quarters.
5 And they called vnto Lot and sayde vnto him: where are the men which came in to thy house to nyghte? brynge the out unto vs that we may do oure lust with them.
6 And Lot went out at doores vnto them and shote the dore after him
7 and sayde: nay for goddes sake brethren do not so wekedly.

And thus quick judgement with plenty of warning. But the people are still oblivioius.

 

[jofuss]

Oh, the world WILL be warned before He comes again, just like in the days of Noah.

However, most will not believe.

And when Jesus comes, these who don't believe will perish.

Think about it. Why would Jesus compare His second coming with 2 events from way back in Genesis where in BOTH stories the major common factor was:

ALL THE WICKED PERISHED ON THAT VERY DAY WHILE ALL THE BELIEVERS WERE SAVED ON THE SAME DAY. THERE IS NO TARRYING TIME AFTERWARDS FOR THE UNBELIEVERS TO BE SAVED! THERE IS NO EXTENDED PROBATION!

LIKEWISE THERE IS NO 7 YEAR PERIOD TO REPENT, NOT EVEN 7 SECONDS!


This event for most people is, as you say "unexpected." It is not secret as many mainstream preachers teach but instead it is the most glorious, awful thing ever!

To wit,
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. (IE IT COMES UNEXPECTEDLY)


1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety (JUST LIKE THE MOCKERS DID IN THE DAYS OF NOAH AND LOT); then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. (LET'S READ THAT AGAIN - "then SUDDEN DESTRUCTION COMETH UPON THEM, as travail upon a woman with child; and THEY SHALL NOT ESCAPE.")


1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

God bless!

 

[HankD]

Oh, the world WILL be warned before He comes again, just like in the days of Noah.

However, most will not believe.

And when Jesus comes, these who don't believe will perish.

Think about it. Why would Jesus compare His second coming with 2 events from way back in Genesis where in BOTH stories the major common factor was:

ALL THE WICKED PERISHED ON THAT VERY DAY WHILE ALL THE BELIEVERS WERE SAVED ON THE SAME DAY. THERE IS NO TARRYING TIME AFTERWARDS FOR THE UNBELIEVERS TO BE SAVED! THERE IS NO EXTENDED PROBATION!

LIKEWISE THERE IS NO 7 YEAR PERIOD TO REPENT, NOT EVEN 7 SECONDS!


This event for most people is, as you say "unexpected." It is not secret as many mainstream preachers teach but instead it is the most glorious, awful thing ever!

To wit,
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. (IE IT COMES UNEXPECTEDLY)


1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety (JUST LIKE THE MOCKERS DID IN THE DAYS OF NOAH AND LOT); then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. (LET'S READ THAT AGAIN - "then SUDDEN DESTRUCTION COMETH UPON THEM, as travail upon a woman with child; and THEY SHALL NOT ESCAPE.")


1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

God bless!

There is another thing in common, the small group of believers who were delivered out of the destruction.

Although I hold to many core dispensational beliefs, I don't like the view which says His return for His own is "secret".

The world will be moving along "business as usual" when He comes for His own. Noah gathered his familty into the ark and they "knew not" what was coming, they probably thought Noah was a nut case. Lot's in-laws mocked him. Lot left Sodom and it seems no one noticed or cared.

In spite of the preaching these almost 2000 years the world cannot hear us and are (as you say) oblivious to the fact that destruction is coming.

Immediately after the chidren of God are removed from the world, the world will began to experience the wrath of Lamb.

HankD