The End of the NIV84?

[RG2]

I've never really been a user of the NIV 84, but I heard from a friend of mine that the NIV 84 has basically been removed from all online websites (Blue Letter Bible, YouVersion, etc). Does this mark the final demise of the NIV 84?

Funny thing is I don't think there was any announcement of this. It just "went away."

 

[Jerome]

Found this buried on the website of the corporation that owns NIV:

http://www.biblica.com/niv/previous-editions/

On February 28, 2013, Biblica removed the older NIV (1984 edition) and the TNIV online Bibles from all websites and digital apps. When the current update to the NIV was first announced in September, 2009, a gradual transition from the previous edition (published in 1984) was promised, and this two-year transition is now complete.

There is only one NIV, which was commissioned by a broad coalition of evangelicals in the 1960's. The original charter of the NIV called for rigorous, ongoing attention to both the source languages of Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, as well as the target language of English as it is spoken today. The updated NIV represents the best available NIV translation, and is thus the edition Biblica has chosen to make available on websites in conjunction with their ongoing publishing of the NIV.

By God's grace, the current edition of the NIV is the most popular translation on Biblica's website because of the Committee on Bible Translation's ongoing commitment to deliver the clearest, most accurate presentation of God's unchanging Word.

But why not continue to offer both editions of the NIV online?

It is customary for Bible publishers to focus their efforts on the most current edition of their translation, and to make available only the best, most up-to-date work of their translators.

 

[Deacon]

Zondervan experienced great strife during their introduction of the TNIV.

The NIV2011 is very similar to the TNIV.

I'd guess that their decision to no longer offer the NIV '84 is related to that.

Rob

 

[Baptist4life]

....... the NIV 84 has basically been removed from all online websites .... Does this mark the final demise of the NIV 84?

Rippon is gonna go spastic when he sees this!! :laugh: :smilewinkgrin:

 

[InTheLight]

It's been removed from my Bible app on my Android phone.

 

[annsni]

This is the reason our church has now officially changed from using the NIV.

 

[Bronconagurski]

It's been removed from my Bible app on my Android phone.

I thought youversion still had it, but it has been removed as has the TNIV. The NIV 2011 and the readers version are all that remain. Christianbook dot com and other sites are still selling the 1984 NIV however, and you can get some good deals.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Rippon is gonna go spastic when he sees this!! :laugh: :smilewinkgrin:

Yea, you just know he is upset when he starts correcting everyones grammar. That's his way of telling you....:laugh:

 

[InTheLight]

I thought youversion still had it, but it has been removed as has the TNIV. The NIV 2011 and the readers version are all that remain. Christianbook dot com and other sites are still selling the 1984 NIV however, and you can get some good deals.

Yep, YouVersion is the name of the Android app. When I went to check and see if it had been removed my phone was constantly loading their web page because the NIV84 was the last version I had been reading on my phone. I had to find a way to get the phone out of the endless loop of looking for the NIV 1984 that was no longer there.

 

[Gregory Perry Sr.]

Not A Problem For Me......

I'll just stick with my trusty old KJV....! Enough said.

Bro.Greg:saint:

 

[Greektim]

I'll just stick with my trusty old KJV....! Enough said.

Bro.Greg:saint:

It is no longer on biblegateway either!!!

 

[Jerome]

That's OK, it now has 'The Voice' and the NRSV.

Bible Gateway Press Releases page:

Bible Gateway Now Offering the NRSV Bible Translation to Millions!

A new relationship between Bible Gateway and National Council of Churches announced today, visitors of BibleGateway.com will now have access to the Revised Standard Version (RSV) and New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) translations of the Bible.

Bible Gateway hears ‘The Voice’!

Celebrating its 20th year online, Bible Gateway kicks off 2013 by adding a new voice to its multiplying list of available Bible translations. “The Voice,” the newest Bible translation introduced to the market in late 2011 by Thomas Nelson, Inc. has received hundreds of endorsements from pastors, ministry leaders, Bible readers and faith seekers from all over the world.

Not a peep there about the 'disappearing' of NIV1984.

 

[Jerome]

Buried in the Bible Gateway forums is this FAQ from 'Bible Gateway content manager' Andy Rau:

https://support.biblegateway.com/forums/21800162-NIV-Transition

Why did you remove the 1984 NIV and TNIV from Bible Gateway?

NIV’s worldwide publisher, Biblica, has requested that we remove the older 1984 and TNIV editions from Bible Gateway, and we are complying with their wishes.

Is there anywhere I can access older editions of the NIV?

Yes. Older editions of the NIV are no longer available on Bible Gateway or any website, but the Committee on Bible Translation (who is solely responsible for the translation of the NIV) and Biblica (the worldwide NIV publisher and copyright holder) have designated the Wheaton College Archives & Special Collections as the official repository of historical documents related to the NIV. It will be possible to access previous editions of the NIV for research purposes, in accordance with the Wheaton College Archives & Special Collections guidelines.

Now that's convenient

 

[annsni]

I'll just stick with my trusty old KJV....! Enough said.

Bro.Greg:saint:

Which one? That also has many versions.

 

[Bronconagurski]

Thankfully I have NIV 84 on my computer software that I bought from Wordsearch, so they can't take that away. It is all designed to force people to use the new version. Most churches probably do so, but I have heard of some moving to other versions, such as the NLT and HCSB, to name a couple. I guess they didn't pull the written copies from the bookstores as they still like to make money and the stores do as well. You can get the NIV 84 Archaeological Bible on christianbook.com for 29 bucks in one imitation leather binding and in the 30s for genuine leather. That is a great bible imo that is being sold for a song. It has good pics and info of a lot of the great archaeological info that supports the bible. I have a hard copy for study but am thinking about getting one that I can carry to church before they are all gone. I presume they will all be gone one day as they are not making more of them to my understanding. There are other deals as well, like the Ryrie Study Bible (good for young Christian that is dispensational) in the NIV 84 for 19 bucks in imitation leather. I bought one just because it was so low. I am a sucker for bibles. I need to sell some on ebay that I don't really like or use. Oh, and the NIV 84 Archaeological bible gives you a disc to download the bible, or a website, so you can get the NIV 84 on your computer that way.

 

[Rippon]

Rippon is gonna go spastic when he sees this!! :laugh: :smilewinkgrin:

You guys are way behind the times. Quite the contrary B4L,I am happy that the older NIV has been phased out from being published. You don't know me at all...do you?

You should see reviews of the 2011 NIV,HCSB and ESV on the WELS website. It will clue you in on what is the all-around best English translation.

 

[Gregory Perry Sr.]

Which one? That also has many versions.

Any of the 1/2 dozen or so that I have will do. I mostly use my Old Scofield (yes...I KNOW the notes are not inspired) and I do like the "Defined King James Bible" that I got from D.A.Waite's ministry a few years ago.:applause::thumbsMost of them are probably 1769 editions)

Bro.Greg:saint:

 

[Bronconagurski]

You guys are way behind the times. Quite the contrary B4L,I am happy that the older NIV has been phased out from being published. You don't know me at all...do you?

You should reviews of the 2011 NIV,HCSB and ESV on the WELS website. It will clue you in on what is the all-around best English translation.

Then why the reluctance to keep the NIV 84 out there? It is part of history and should be available to let people make up their mind which is the best version. Was the NIV 84 wrong all the years it was out there? Seems that is what is being impressed by your words saying you are happy that is being phased out as if it did not exist. Is it really just a control and money thing? Some think so, but I am not saying that is true. I don't know why they are acting so strange, imo.

 

[Rippon]

Then why the reluctance to keep the NIV 84 out there? It is part of history and should be available to let people make up their mind which is the best version. Was the NIV 84 wrong all the years it was out there? Seems that is what is being impressed by your words saying you are happy that is being phased out as if it did not exist. Is it really just a control and money thing? Some think so, but I am not saying that is true. I don't know why they are acting so strange, imo.

You do realize,do you not,that the TNIV was also phased out?

It's not a "control and money thing" as you so ineloquesntly put it. It's less confusing.

The 84 NIV was not" wrong all the years it was out there." All translations have the need to be updated and revised. The NIV is no exception.

Strange that you think it is strange.

 

[Bronconagurski]

You do realize,do you not,that the TNIV was also phased out?

It's not a "control and money thing" as you so ineloquesntly put it. It's less confusing.

The 84 NIV was not" wrong all the years it was out there." All translations have the need to be updated and revised. The NIV is no exception.

Strange that you think it is strange.

I agree that all translations need updating, but did the ASV go away after the 77 and 95 came out? The ASV is still on youversion, as is the NASB. The TNIV was quickly replaced by the 2011, and that is strange. It had hardly been out there at all. The NIV 84 has been a standard for a lot of churches, and yes, I think it strange that youversion was strongarmed to take it off. It's strange that you do not, imo.