The first Pope was a married Priest

The argument would be that God had not revealed yet to pope whoever it was that priest had to remain single married to God himself. Priests wear a wedding band as if they are somehow equal to the partner they claim to have married. It’s utter hogwash, just one of the thousands of lies told us by the RCC.

Perhaps allowing priests to be married is a good idea if you’re out to rescue the church. I consider it a false religion and would just as soon let it burn. If you have to put windows on confessional doors to keep priests from molesting their flock there is something seriously wrong in the base of your religion.

 

Your assessment is flawed. Celibacy within the priesthood is a discipline of the Church, it is not doctrine. As early as 305 A.D. local Synods called for celibacy. As a discipline, the First and Second Lateran councils in 1123 and 1139 that priests were required to be unmarried and celibate. It remains a discipline to this day. St. Paul praised celibacy in the priesthood. [Cf. 1 Corinthians 7:32-38] and was celibate himself. The best example however was Jesus Christ, can you imagine Christ being called for supper and away form healing the masses by the wife?

A married man can 'molest' their flock just as easily as the unmarried. Celibacy allows a man to place his priority on the Church, it emphasis his unique roll in following Christ. it affirms marriage and is completely biblical Matthew 19:11-12 .

In my mind there is something wrong to base your philosophies and anything else.


JoeT

 

There’s no doubt in my mind the errant practice of celibate priests contributed greatly to the systematic sexual deviancy that’s ruined so many lives.

 

Celibacy is no more "natural" than being confined to a wheelchair. We don't know if Paul had some physical limitation that made him celibate.

And if it's a "church discipline", it's MAN-MADE & SHOULDN'T BE FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIANS !

The church can't send anyone to hell. And God doesn't hold anyone accountable for refusing to follow MAN-MADE "disciplines" or traditions.

That's part of the RCC's apostasy-it's chock-full of MAN-MADE "DISCIPLINES" & TRADITIONS !

 

And pray tell us, what has a married pastorate done to stop sexual deviancy among the Baptist clergy? Answer: Nothing! I read constantly of married Baptist pastors going after young boys, young girls, and other married women. Sexual deviancy and sinful behavior is part of the whole human condition, not just one particular group.

 

Ah, you're the folks who follow one man, his name John Smyth to be exact. And your places of worship look like the local Grange Hall.

 

Only one group protected their offenders. If you can uncover repeated offenses with the clergy blocking investigations and moving deviant priests to other parishes in an independent baptist church have at it.

 

Hundreds Accuse Independent Baptist Pastors of Abuse


Brother your talking about sexual predators. You lock me in room of kids for hundred years I am not going to rape anyone.

The idea if unless a person has a wife they will want to rape little boys, uh....no.

The playing field of a sexual predator is already sick in the head he doesn't care what religion he signs up to he signing up to be predator.

If anyone says unless they were married they would be sexual predator, I got bad news for you buddy.

 

Until your ranks are sinless and clear and pure as the wind driven snow, you are in no position to talk about any other faith tradition. I think the relevant phrase is: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

The Catholic Church as a whole has asked forgiveness (and paid compensation) for these terrible sins. If God Himself can forgive and then forget our sins upon repentance, surely as a Christian you can do likewise. If not, you have a serious problem you need to deal with.

 

Pfft. As long as you guys claim to be the one true church of Christ I’ll keep this up. Not concerned with anybody’s feelings concerning this.

But yeah, it’s nice the rcc apologized for keeping their priests well supplied with fresh victims and covering up the trails they left behind.

 

Yeah, too true! Its nice the Baptist Church apologizes for keeping their ministers with fresh victims too.

JoeT

 

That’s why I said independent. Churches giving up autonomy always end up compromising. Two great examples are the RCC and the SBC.

 

My church is IFB, & we don't follow Smyth or any man except JESUS, who's no longer a man. And my church is autonomous, following NO man-made doctrines or "disciplines".

Now, please show us FROM SCRIPTURE where God commanded celibacy!

1 Tim.4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

And, as the OP says, your first pope was married !

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS !