The good ol' days...when it was called Global WARMING...

[rbell]

Ah, yes...I remember when stupid was "in."

We're supposed to build public policy off of these morons' opinions? Give me a break. These people are depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.

Read it and chuckle...(or weep--considering what freedoms will be taken from us in the name of "climate change). Remember--the institution of "higher learning" (*snort*) listed below--east Anglia--should try and patent cranial-rectal inversion. Read the article excerpt below and remember--these are the "scientists" on the vanguard of "climate change research."


Flashback (March 2000): A so-called "report on the severity of global warming:"

Britain's winter ends tomorrow with further indications of a striking environmental change: snow is starting to disappear from our lives.


Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain's culture...

According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".

"Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.


( SOURCE )

Please tell me how any of these imbeciles have any credibility whatsoever?



Now...Here are today's headlines:

"Snow and Ice Ground Majority of Flights Out of Britain"
( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ruined-for-half-a-million-air-passengers.html )


"Coldest December Since Record-Keeping Began"
( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339149/Big-freeze-Temperatures-plummet-10C-bringing-travel-chaos-Britain.html )

The latest snowfall carpeted large swathes of Britain today - with up to 5in falling in places - paralysing roads and rail, and forcing airports and schools to close.

Forecasters warned the worst was still to come over the next 24 hours as the heaviest December snowfall for 30 years tightened its grip on the nation once more.
The South is expected to be worst hit with up to 10in falling during the course of tomorrow. By the start of next week temperatures are set to fall as low as -15c (-5f).

Met office forecaster Barry Gromett said the average mean temperature for the first two weeks of this month was -0.7c. The coldest-ever average for this time of year--recorded in December 1981, was 0.2c.

What an absolute crock. These people are raving idiots, and yet we consider allowing them to curtail our freedoms.

If we follow through and do so--I sincerely question who is more stupid: them, for propogating such trash, or us, for buying into it (despite the actual evidence)...

 

[rbell]

An actual quote at the "global war...er, climate change" conference this past week at Cancun (which, by the way, had its lowest recorded temperature during the summit....that's priceless!!). Anyhow, here's the actual quote:

"But don’t you realise...that global cooling is what we must expect because of global warming?”

*snicker*

Oh...and here's a gem for the chicken littles:

Last week one such wrote to the Daily Telegraph to say that Roger Helmer, the jovial Tory MEP, ought not to have gone to Cancun for the latest big-carbon-footprint UN climate junket. Instead, said the Prof, Mr Helmer should have used the time learning that “global warming” of 0.7C in a single century was unprecedented in the last 600,000 years.

No. As Mr Helmer wrote in his reply, 11,400 years ago at the end of the last Ice Age, temperatures in Antarctica rose by 5C in just three years. That’s global warming. Thermometers in central England showed warming of 2.2C during just 40 years from 1695-1735 – eight times faster than 20th-century warming.

Funny--those facts never seem to make it into Algore's summits.

SOURCE

 

[glfredrick]

The whole deal is sort of unraveling... But, like any bad science, it will take a long time to divest of all the government and UN grants.

Carbon sequestering has already gone by the wayside, as has Al Gore's corporation that sold carbon credits (whatever they were).

Climate gate, actual temperatures around the globe, the fact that most of the thermometers that measure temps are in heat-sink locations in major cities, etc., all lead to compound errors.

I just finished a huge book on "The Green Campus" published by APPA, the facilities management oversight firm. What I noticed first off is that all the authors cite each other round-robin, but no one has source material. So, the author of chapter 1 cites the author of chapter 2, and so on, until the author of chapter 5 cites the author of chapter 1 and the whole cycle goes round and round. The second thing I saw was that going "green" is IMPOSSIBLE without someone's grant money -- period. The major point to "sustainability" is to figure out a way to do ridiculously expensive stuff on someone else's dime, then claim that there is some $$ savings. Even our kiddos know better than that, and if we tried the same scheme on their piggy banks they would throw a fit! The third thing I saw was that education is the be all and end all of the "green" movement. If they can but educate enough people, they can change the world. To what they never say...

I track weather for my work (I'm the manager of grounds for Southern Seminary) and I need to know when to spray, when to plant, etc. I've seen temps going down radically over the past several years. What we used to do in mid February in Louisville is now pushed back to June! We had a big-deal hot summer this year, but that was not climate change. That was a jet-stream movement dictated by a huge high pressure dome that just sat over us all summer long. That can happen, but it is a weather rarity for our area that typically sees a constantly moving weather target. The minute the dome moved off, we cooled off -- a lot. From 90s to 20s in one week.

So, no... I don't buy man-made global warming or any man-made solution, and yes, I greatly fear global cooling. One hard frost at the wrong time and the food supply is wiped out for the year. Almost had that last year when temps refused to respond from winter!

 

[billwald]

Ocean warming puts more water into the air. The moisture comes down in the form of snow. The land and the air over the land is much colder than sea water. The snow stays on the land and the water continues to evaporate from the sea and make more snow.

 

[targus]

Ocean warming puts more water into the air. The moisture comes down in the form of snow. The land and the air over the land is much colder than sea water. The snow stays on the land and the water continues to evaporate from the sea and make more snow.

And that explains the record lows in Cancun, Mexico?

 

[glfredrick]

Ocean warming puts more water into the air. The moisture comes down in the form of snow. The land and the air over the land is much colder than sea water. The snow stays on the land and the water continues to evaporate from the sea and make more snow.

Isn't that sort of like adjusting the thermostat? Self-regulating?

 

[rbell]

Ocean warming puts more water into the air. The moisture comes down in the form of snow. The land and the air over the land is much colder than sea water. The snow stays on the land and the water continues to evaporate from the sea and make more snow.

And that explains the record lows in Cancun, Mexico?

Isn't that sort of like adjusting the thermostat? Self-regulating?

I believe that objection's been handled. :thumbs:

 

[Matt Black]

You guys do know the difference between climate and weather, don't you?

 

[NiteShift]

Yes, Climate is when you hide the decline.

 

[rbell]

I also know the difference between "science" and the silliness being propagated by the UN-backed "scientists." Climategate proves the disconnect, and how large it really is--between actual data/science/theories, and the agenda being pushed by some.