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I agree with you. This election has destroyed the testimony of the Christian Right.

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I'm in the minority on this site, but I don't believe we're told in scripture to control the government. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing for a Christian to run for office with good intention, and that doesn't mean we should make bad choices when we have the ability to have a say in our government. I do think that means there is room for different political ideologies.

I do think this election shows how gullible the general voting population is. The religious right will elect someone based on what they promise rather than what their records and attitude shows. Though, that is true of the left as well. You'd think people would think twice this year, but...

 

I'm a conservative Christian but I supported Trump in the primary. I don't think he has the best soteriology (he may not be a Christian), but I felt his policies lined up with God's purposes better than the other candidates (protect the innocent, punish evil, Rom. 13, 1Pet. 2). Reminds me a lot of Reagan—divorced Hollywood actor, etc. Probably wasn't a Christian, but Christians at the time recognized his policies were more righteous that Carters.

I was also very concerned about Cruz's testimony. The cheating in Iowa was the deal breaker for me, and also his going after Trump's wife. Many don't realize Cruz drew first blood on that. The media would have torn him to pieces.

Cruz was also mixed up with some very bad groups—Word of Faith and Dominion theology. Many believe these groups are cults and the media would have destroyed him on that also.

We have a good candidate in Trump. We all need to get behind him if we care about the Supreme Court.

 

Do you remember the Reagan Carter election? Same arguments were made against Reagan. Flip flopped on abortion. He had supported abortion and divorce legislation in California as governor. And he himself was a divorced, Hollywood actor. And a democrat. And his opponent was a born again Southern Baptist Sunday School teacher. The arguments back then were much like today.

But the church in the 80s understood that policy was king. Reagan's policies were far more righteous that Carter's and thank God they understood that. Reagan was responsible for 2 great SC picks and 2 good ones. Carter would have been a disaster on the Supreme Court. The world would be vastly different if he prevailed.

I only pray the Church today as the wisdom of the Church in the 80s. Trump is a good choice. Don't base your vote on perfection, base in direction. Trump is going in the right direction, just as Reagan was in the 80s.

 

I was just a twinkle in my mother's eye when Reagan was President, so I don't remember anything about it, no. (I of course did learn about Reagan in high school and have read speeches by him and his autobiography, so I'm not entirely ignorant.)

I'm not going to guilt anyone into voting one way or the other, I would consider that degrading toward democracy and freedom of thought. For myself I believe there is more at stake than just abortion. I'm not going to vote for someone who has policies I oppose just because they have one policy I agree with.

I do remain unconvinced that Trump is honest. And when it comes to Reagen, he had political experience and history. Trump does not.

 

I don't guilt people over many things. But indifference to murder is definitely guilt worthy. If we Christians turn outr backs on the innocent and helpless, what hope do they have?

And Reagan did have history—history as a democrat supporting liberal causes. A history of supporting abortion. History of supporting divorce legislation. But he got on the right path, and was a great president. It looks like Trump is on a good path also. I'm concerned about direction, not perfection.

 

I hadn't meant the guilt statement to be directed at you or anyone, apologies. I was just saying I'm not going to get upset if someone supports a candidate I do not. (Also partially in reply to someone else, as I thought this was a different thread.)

I'm aware of this. I am unconvinced that Trump is on any path I wish to endorse. Even if I were still conservative I would not wish to endorse him.

 

He wasn't. In fact,much of what Reagan did ran contrary to proclaiming the Good News to the poor or setting the oppressed free.

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Ted Cruz, was/is s fraud. With a Bible in one hand, he played dirty tricks and violated election laws in nearly every primary. As Scripture commands us to do our best to get along with others, he gets along with none of his fellow Senators, both Christian and non-Christian. I think we have had enough experience with Presidents from Texas with LBJ and two Bushes. As far as I am concerned Cruz used the name of Christ and Scripture to garner votes.

What quality of nominees do you expect? This country not only sins against the Lord, we rub His nose in our sin by making abortion and same sex marriage the law of the land. He has blessed our nation more than any other in human history. We have the exact nominees we deserve. Your calling as all of ours is loyalty to Jesus Christ. Your argument about the lesser of two evils rings hallow, since we are all evil and sin after salvation. All does not seem lost to me. God ordains human history, and the two running is exactly who He wants. Whoever wins November 8, that is exactly who God wanted in the office of the President. Nothing seems lost to me, I will vote for the best person who I think is better for this nation. Did it ever dawn on you Trump is such a wild card might be the exact person the Lord molds as he grows in office.

 

The lengths liberals will go to to try and tear down Reagan is astounding.

 

I'd like to hear about these election law violations that Cruz engaged in. Please tell.

Apparently this command does not apply to non-Trump supporters on Baptist Board.

What does the state of one's residency have to do with the quality of the President? This is pure discrimination based on geography.

Uh-huh. But Trump isn't doing that, oh no, not at all...

Yep, so lesser of two evils it is then. Just like when you voted for McCain and Romney. Anybody with an R after their name is good enough for you.

Did it ever occur to you that your statement could be just as valid by replacing Trump's name with Hillary Clinton?