The Liberal's Go To Guy, John McCain

[carpro]

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=/Commentary/archive/200801/COM20080130a.html

McCain's No Threat to the Left

By Terence P. Jeffrey
CNSNews.com Editor in Chief
January 30, 2008

While the liberal establishment may be conflicted over whether it wants Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential nominee, there's no doubt which Republican it favors.

John McCain is the liberal elite's go-to guy in the GOP. They believe he'll be there for them when they need him.

That was the essential message of last week's New York Times editorial endorsing McCain for the Republican nomination.

 

[Ps104_33]

It does make me suspicious that all the major newspapers are endorsing McCain. What does that tell you? A fellow that I work with, who is a Hillary Clinton supporter, said that he would vote for McCain because he is the "most liberal of the Republicans".
Yet McCains stance on the Iraq war is to stay in to win. He even said "I would rather lose the election than lose the war". I am confused. Why are the papers all endorsing a "war-monger".

 

[Jaaaman]

I was very unhappy to see that John McCain won in Florida yesterday. I'm sure the liberal democrats are celebrating. This whole GOP race has been one sad disappointment after another. Duncan Hunter was the candidate I was really pulling for... a fellow that has stuck to his conservative principles ever since he has been in political office. :tear:

 

[Martin]

I don't know why all these "conservatives" (clear throat, quote unquote) are upset about McCain's rise to the nomination.

After all these are the same clowns who proudly marched behind and continue to march behind the big government liberal George W Bush. Many of these "conservatives" also support Mitt Romney who has done a 180 on many important conservative issues in recent years. These "conservatives" did not get behind Fred Thompson, Ron Paul, Mike Huckabee or any other more conservative candidate. Now they cry and complain about John McCain being the Republican nominee. You know what, too bad. These conservatives should have gotten behind a much more conservative candidate when they had the chance. However they did not and now they are stuck with John McCain. Unless, of course, they go to a third party which guarantees 8 years of Hillary Clinton. They need to stop complaining and support the candidate they, through their failure to get behind a more conservative candidate, made the nominee.

Look on the bright side, at least John McCain has a chance of defeating Hillary in the fall. His more moderate positions will appeal to a larger group of people.

Shame on the Republican party and shame on these professing conservatives who do nothing but complain. I and others are tired of hearing it. You folks did not "put up" when you had the chance so now you must sit back and accept the consequences.

I now step down from my soapbox and start to try to improve my general mood on this day.

 

[PastorSBC1303]

It does make me suspicious that all the major newspapers are endorsing McCain. What does that tell you?

Don't you think that maybe that is a way for them to try and derail McCain's run since they really do not want him going up against Hillary or Obama in November?

I felt Bill Clinton's love fest for McCain in saying how close he and Hillary are was the same type of political move.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

John McCain is NOT a liberal, and anyone who claims such in print either has no understanding of the term, or has some vested interest in attacking him in such a fashion. He is a Neocon, and has been for quite a while.

In this article, the author clearly has no understanding of what he refers to as the "liberal establishment." If he did, then he would know that the "liberal establishment" does not want to run against McCain - they want Romney or Huckabee.

I am a Liberal, and he is most certainly not my "go to guy."

Regards,
BiR

 

[carpro]

I don't know why all these "conservatives" (clear throat, quote unquote) are upset about McCain's rise to the nomination.

Probably for the same reason liberals are excited about it.

With his record of opposing free speech, I do wonder at the endorsement of newspapers. Mayber their liberal agenda is more important than freedom of speech or advertising income, either one.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

Probably for the same reason liberals are excited about it.

Not surprisingly, you are wrong carpro. The "liberals" are not excited about the prospect of running against McCain.

 

[Martin]

With his record of opposing free speech

==Please explain to me how John McCain opposes free speech (ie...the first amendment). And please don't say what I think you are going to say. Because if you do I will tell you "that" has nothing to do with the first amendment or freedom of speech.

 

[carpro]

==Please explain to me how John McCain opposes free speech (ie...the first amendment). And please don't say what I think you are going to say. Because if you do I will tell you "that" has nothing to do with the first amendment or freedom of speech.

I simply can't take the chance.

 

[Revmitchell]

I am not convinced that any of the other candidates are more conservative than McCain. McCain does appear to be more liberal. And he is certainly supported by libs. The exit polling in Florida showed that 49% of thos who say they voted for him considered themselves liberal. 44% of those who say they voted for him consider themsleves moderate (liberal light). Statistics on exit polling reveal McCain is the go to guy for many liberals even if he is not for one or more on this board.

 

[saturneptune]

I don't know why all these "conservatives" (clear throat, quote unquote) are upset about McCain's rise to the nomination.

After all these are the same clowns who proudly marched behind and continue to march behind the big government liberal George W Bush. Many of these "conservatives" also support Mitt Romney who has done a 180 on many important conservative issues in recent years. These "conservatives" did not get behind Fred Thompson, Ron Paul, Mike Huckabee or any other more conservative candidate. Now they cry and complain about John McCain being the Republican nominee. You know what, too bad. These conservatives should have gotten behind a much more conservative candidate when they had the chance. However they did not and now they are stuck with John McCain. Unless, of course, they go to a third party which guarantees 8 years of Hillary Clinton. They need to stop complaining and support the candidate they, through their failure to get behind a more conservative candidate, made the nominee.

Look on the bright side, at least John McCain has a chance of defeating Hillary in the fall. His more moderate positions will appeal to a larger group of people.

Shame on the Republican party and shame on these professing conservatives who do nothing but complain. I and others are tired of hearing it. You folks did not "put up" when you had the chance so now you must sit back and accept the consequences.

I now step down from my soapbox and start to try to improve my general mood on this day.

Very insightful Martin. The American people are sick of pseudo-conservatives pandering for votes. Eight years is about as much as one can take. There is nothing more sickening than a liberal Republican.

McCain has his faults, but not the worst of the lot. Romney is the most deceptive person that has come along in a long time, and is not worthy of the office of President. Liberal or conservative does not come into play with him, its total dishonesty.

Also, as Martin said, for all the cry babies gnashing teeth over McCain, how long have we been talking about getting out and supporting a Paul, or a Thompson, or a Huckabee? Sorry, times up.

One more point, for the same crowd, you can blame the Democratic victory this year right at the feet of this Administration's liberal failure to lead. Those who continued to believe and tolerate the liberal policies of the past eight years can share in the Democratic victory.

 

[777]

Don't you think that maybe that is a way for them to try and derail McCain's run since they really do not want him going up against Hillary or Obama in November?

I felt Bill Clinton's love fest for McCain in saying how close he and Hillary are was the same type of political move.

No, I don't think that's the case. That's way too convoluted for them. The NYT and the rest want to be able to pick the nominee of both parties, and it's working.

 

[poncho]

McCain or Clinton? Doesn't matter which "wins" as the power elite win either way and once again we lose either way.

 

[tinytim]

The very fact that pro-abortion Rudy endorsed McCain speaks volumes, about McCain's lack of conservativism...

 

[PastorSBC1303]

The very fact that pro-abortion Rudy endorsed McCain speaks volumes, about McCain's lack of conservativism...

McCain's record has been strongly pro life.

Guiliani's endorsement has nothing to do with the social issues.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

I am not convinced that any of the other candidates are more conservative than McCain. McCain does appear to be more liberal. And he is certainly supported by libs. The exit polling in Florida showed that 49% of thos who say they voted for him considered themselves liberal. 44% of those who say they voted for him consider themsleves moderate (liberal light). Statistics on exit polling reveal McCain is the go to guy for many liberals even if he is not for one or more on this board.

Trust me, I'm a liberal. I listen to AirAmerica. If you stream their audio, you will hear that most liberals DO NOT want to run against him. Listen to Thom Hartmann or Randi Rhodes - you will hear for yourself.
Let's go back to the subject of this thread, and the comment to which I directed my remarks:

While the liberal establishment may be conflicted over whether it wants Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential nominee, there's no doubt which Republican it favors. [emphasis mine]

I made two points:
1. John McCain is NOT a liberal. While he is certainly left of center on social issues, he is NOT a liberal. He is, and always has been a Neocon.
2. The "liberal establishment" [the subject offered by Terrence Jeffrey] does NOT want to run against McCain. You have hit the nail on the head with what you wrote in that there is a perception that he is a liberal. Again, he is NOT a liberal. Since there is an inaccurate perception, they do not want to run against him. They would prefer to run against someone who is perceived to be a conservative like Romney (who is nothing more than one who panders to those who he believes will get him elected - i.e. a flip flopper), or someone like Huckabee who is perceived to be some sort of religious zealot. The last thing they want is someone who could be called a liberal or a maverick Republican.

After all, in politics, all too often perception is reality.......

Regards,
BiR

 

[Revmitchell]

Liberals do not want to have to run against another liberal.:laugh: McCain may not be as extreme as Clinton or Obama but liberal he is. Conservative he is not.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

Liberals do not want to have to run against another liberal.:laugh: McCain may not be as extreme as Clinton or Obama but liberal he is. Conservative he is not.

Again, Revmitchell: you are wrong - McCain is a Neocon.

But you are right that they do not want to run against a perceived liberal. If you don't believe me, go to http://www.airamericaradio.com/ and click on "listen live." You can hear it from yourself.

Regards,
BiR

 

[Revmitchell]

Again, Revmitchell: you are wrong - McCain is a Neocon.

But you are right that they do not want to run against a perceived liberal. If you don't believe me, go to http://www.airamericaradio.com/ and click on "listen live." You can hear it from yourself.

Regards,
BiR

No he's not, yes he is, no he's not, yes he is:laugh:

Conservatives do not consider McCain conservative.