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the mark of the beast

Iconoclast

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Is a Walmart charge card the mark of the beast?

So many are looking for it.Walmart is spreading worldwide, and we are told than you will not be able to buy or sell without it!!!!
 

Thousand Hills

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Is a Walmart charge card the mark of the beast?

So many are looking for it.Walmart is spreading worldwide, and we are told than you will not be able to buy or sell without it!!!!

You may be on to something. Sam Walton, the founder of Wal-Mart was born March 29, 1918 and died April 5, 1992. Now March is the 3rd month of the year, if we take 3 and subtract it from all of the nines in the year that Mr. Walton was born and died, what do we get? That's right kiddos 666, notice also that there are three nines in the years that he was born and died, turn this upside down and again you get 666. :tongue3:
 

Iconoclast

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You may be on to something. Sam Walton, the founder of Wal-Mart was born March 29, 1918 and died April 5, 1992. Now March is the 3rd month of the year, if we take 3 and subtract it from all of the nines in the year that Mr. Walton was born and died, what do we get? That's right kiddos 666, notice also that there are three nines in the years that he was born and died, turn this upside down and again you get 666. :tongue3:

Surely no one could argue against scholarship like that.....nobody!!!
 

Berean

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Is a Walmart charge card the mark of the beast?

So many are looking for it.Walmart is spreading worldwide, and we are told than you will not be able to buy or sell without it!!!!

I like what J Wight Pentecost has to say in his book Prophecy for today
J. Dwight Pentecost, Prophecy for Today, 1961
I confess that I don't know what this number means. I am certain, however, that there are more than 666 interpretations. Everyone seems to have an opinion. Since God doesn't explain the meaning, apparently it's not important for us to know. Before this person comes to prominence believers will have been translated into God's presence. We will not have the slightest interest in the Beast or the False Prophet because we will be occupied with the Lord Jesus Christ in glory.
The reason God gave us any information at all, I believe, is so that believers alive in that day will have a clear identifying sign that the one in world power is Satan's masterpiece. (J. Dwight Pentecost, Prophecy for Today, 1961, p.114)
 

revmwc

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Is a Walmart charge card the mark of the beast?

So many are looking for it.Walmart is spreading worldwide, and we are told than you will not be able to buy or sell without it!!!!
What we are told is that it is the number of man which is 6 which is the day man was created.

The Tribulation being a time in which satan will be fully attacking anyone who receives Christ after the church has been snatched out will be the dominating force upon the earth. 666 is the representation of the unholy trinity. Satan, the beast and the false prophet. It is less of the mark of the beast and more of the mark of the religion of that period of time. People will be required to take upon them the mark of the religion and government of that time.

Revelation 13:14-16,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

The third member of the unholy trinity that is the False prophet, false christ or anti-christ will make an image to the beast out of the sea that is the world dictator. Then he has power to give life to the image, in biblical times this would have seemed impossible in our times it could easily be a computerized image with speakers. Any who refuse to worship it will be killed. He the false messiah will cause people to receive a mark, the mark will represent, satan, the dictator(beast) and the false messiah.


Then we see the number of the beast in verse 18.

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Bullinger's Numbers in scripture states this.

...666 is therefore the trinity of human perfection; the perfection of imperfection; the culmination of human pride in independence of
God and opposition to His Christ…But 666 was the secret symbol of the ancient pagan mysteries connected with the worship of the Devil...

THERE ARE THREE MEN which stand out in Scripture as the avowed enemies of God and of His people. Each is branded with this number six that we may not miss their significance:
1. GOLIATH, whose height was 6 cubits, and he had 6 pieces of armour;* his spear's head weighed 600 shekels of iron (1 Sam 17:4-7).
2. NEBUCHADNEZZAR, whose "image" which he set up,** was 60 cubits high and 6 cubits broad (Dan 3:1), and which was worshipped when the music was heard from 6 specified instruments,*** and
3. ANTICHRIST, whose number is 666.

So no your suggestion that it is a Walmart card is a little inaccurate. Maybe you should let he Holy Spirit Guide you to understand the mark of the beast a little better.
 

Revmitchell

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The walmart charge card is not but threads being started in order to make fun of a doctrine you do not hold to may be.
 

Dr. Bob

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The walmart charge card is not but threads being started in order to make fun of a doctrine you do not hold to may be.

Amen. Find it hateful that Christians intentionally try to demean and ridicule because they don't agree with an interpretation.

My advice - ignore foolish posts.
 

Iconoclast

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The walmart charge card is not but threads being started in order to make fun of a doctrine you do not hold to may be.


Amen. Find it hateful that Christians intentionally try to demean and ridicule because they don't agree with an interpretation.

My advice - ignore foolish posts.

While my use of the brand name Walmart charge card was done intentionally and somewhat..."tongue in cheek"... it does raise a valid question about this whole idea of the "mark of the beast".

I have heard this mark explained many times as exactly what I described....{not that brand name} but a credit card beginning with the number 666.

You have heard it taught also....the card, or a tattoo, or a micro chip implant on the right hand or forehead.{ when President Bush senior went to see a scanner at the grocery store and mentioned that there is a new world order coming....the radio almost melted down with these kind of messages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7i0wCFf8g


https://www.google.com/search?q=Pre...ggTRpq7oCg&usg=__BgMvEnsPtfcob_ad5IrVC2lIpXk=

If you have not heard it explained as one of these three, then say what you have taught it as?

https://www.google.com/search?q=mic...3IMergwTg-o_wCQ&ved=0CD4QsAQ&biw=1093&bih=494

So...while I was being a bit light with this concept it is and has been taught.

Do you believe it will be a "literal mark" of any kind as described ?

I was taught that it was.....I do not think that is the truth anymore.
 

salzer mtn

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Maybe Walmart thought all the civil war relics were the mark of the beast when they quit selling them. :laugh:
 

Judith

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What we are told is that it is the number of man which is 6 which is the day man was created.



The third member of the unholy trinity that is the False prophet, false christ or anti-christ will make an image to the beast out of the sea that is the world dictator. Then he has power to give life to the image, in biblical times this would have seemed impossible in our times it could easily be a computerized image with speakers. Any who refuse to worship it will be killed. He the false messiah will cause people to receive a mark, the mark will represent, satan, the dictator(beast) and the false messiah.


Then we see the number of the beast in verse 18.





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I would like to offer a possible correction. I do not believe the beast can be mechanical. He has to be flesh and blood, a real human being, a clone perhaps, because I do not believe that God will send machines to the lake of fire. Rev 19:20
 

Iconoclast

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I would like to offer a possible correction. I do not believe the beast can be mechanical. He has to be flesh and blood, a real human being, a clone perhaps, because I do not believe that God will send machines to the lake of fire. Rev 19:20

Judith, some do not see this as different from what God already used here;

Ezekiel 9 King James Version (KJV)

9 He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand.

2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar.

3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;

4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

8 And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord God! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?

9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The Lord hath forsaken the earth, and the Lord seeth not.

10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.

11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me
 
What we are told is that it is the number of man which is 6 which is the day man was created.

The Tribulation being a time in which satan will be fully attacking anyone who receives Christ after the church has been snatched out will be the dominating force upon the earth. 666 is the representation of the unholy trinity. Satan, the beast and the false prophet. It is less of the mark of the beast and more of the mark of the religion of that period of time. People will be required to take upon them the mark of the religion and government of that time.



The third member of the unholy trinity that is the False prophet, false christ or anti-christ will make an image to the beast out of the sea that is the world dictator. Then he has power to give life to the image, in biblical times this would have seemed impossible in our times it could easily be a computerized image with speakers. Any who refuse to worship it will be killed. He the false messiah will cause people to receive a mark, the mark will represent, satan, the dictator(beast) and the false messiah.


Then we see the number of the beast in verse 18.





So no your suggestion that it is a Walmart card is a little inaccurate. Maybe you should let he Holy Spirit Guide you to understand the mark of the beast a little better.
How can anyone receive Christ after the church and Spirit is 'raptured out'? :confused:



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revmwc

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I would like to offer a possible correction. I do not believe the beast can be mechanical. He has to be flesh and blood, a real human being, a clone perhaps, because I do not believe that God will send machines to the lake of fire. Rev 19:20

You miss read what was said

will make an image to the beast out of the sea that is the world dictator. Then he has power to give life to the image, in biblical times this would have seemed impossible in our times it could easily be a computerized image with speakers.

The image of the beast could be mechanical and computerized not the beast himself.

Again we see:

Revelation 13:14-16,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Do you see they make an image to the beast which could be a computerized robot or statue and that is entirely possible in our time and that is what I was saying.
 

revmwc

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How can anyone receive Christ after the church and Spirit is 'raptured out'? :confused:



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The same way Adam, Sheth, Enosh, Kenan, Mahalaleel, Jered,
Enoch (who walked with God and was not for God took him), Methuselah, Lamech, Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth all received salvation. The Spirit wasn't residing in them either nor was there a church not even scripture existed for Adam, Sheth, Enosh, Kenan, Mahalaleel, Jered,
Enoch (who walked with God and was not for God took him), Methuselah, Lamech, Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth and they were saved and redeemed men.

The same for Arphaxad, Shelah, Eber, Peleg, Reu, Serug, Nahor, Terah, Abram; the same is Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (Israel), Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah, Issachar, and Zebulun, Dan, Joseph, and Benjamin, Naphtali, Gad, and Asher.

Levi to Moses and then the first 5 books came from Moses.

So for over 4000 years there was no church, the Spirit came upon whom He would and that is how the Tribulation will be.
The Church didn't come about until 10 days after Christ Ascended.
 
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